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So before I begin, I use to be much more active on here a few years ago, I would say back in 2011 I think (I want to try an be more active on this website) and for those few who remember me (I may have been a bit awkward and going through a rough time) might remember that I have mentioned my problems with bedwetting since I was a kid. Well back in August I was officially diagnosed with Sleep Apnia And after fighting with doctors, insurance...etc (God what a nightmare that was) I finally have a BIPAP machine I sleep with. I've had it since Nov 20th and since then my bedwetting is no longer a problem! Turns out (according to my doctor) that my body was making me have to use the bathroom during the night to wake me up (since my brain was not getting enough Oxygen) and mix that with a weak bladder, you have bedwetting! So Instead of having to use the restroom every hour of the night (literally, I have journaled the need to use the restroom every hour quite a few times), now I don' have to use the restroom during the night at all! Maybe once if any at all. So this entire time, I might have had a bit of sleep apnia contributing to the problem. 

Now I'm sure there is someone thinking (aww sorry your not a bedwetter anymore! I would love to be a bedwetter!) Don't get me wrong, I love waking up a soggy crinkle butt as much as the next diaper loving fruit tart (I can say that cause I'm a diaper loving fruit tart!-_-) but honestly? Being a bedwetter sucks! Always waking up in a bed soaked of pee (because when you have to pee a trillion times in the night, it doesn't matter what precautions you take, somehow you manage to leak) and having to wash sheets every other day or having to cover your bed in towels in the middle of the night so you can get some sleep and deal with it in the morning sucks ass! Now I can wear a diaper to bed in confidence without having to worry about waking up in a pee puddle and that makes me super happy! Until I get the monthly bill for the machine in January (considering my deductible resets and my payments on the machine are more then my car) in any case I'll probably think at some point "could I go back to being a bedwetter...<_<?, cause... this is expensive as shit...". The answer by the way is bo... falling a sleep while driving is not good and I feel so much better then I did before. So if your a bedwetter who feels tired all the time, who Does off sometimes while you drive, who wakes up with headaches every morning and has cotton mouth every morning to the point your uvula swells then you might wanna look into a sleep study! 

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I  have sleep apnea too.also diabetes with neropathy,high bp,etc.dr. has me on meds for all this.even with a sleep apnea mask,if not diapered,i get up 4 times a night and wake up with the pasty mouth still.i keep a drink by my bedside to help a little bit.my diapers are soaked every morning.

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I think its the combination of mask and head gear I use keeps my mouth from drying out. They wanted me to use a full mask but there is NO way I could handle it! Constantly smelling my own nasty breath all night regardless how many time I brush my teeth was terrible and I felt clausterfobic wearing it... :wacko: I chose a nasal mask and to prevent my mouth from opening I wear a chin strap... I look like a complete freak at night but in the end its worth it.

Luckily I don't have diabetes but I'm sure if I don't make a change in my diet, that could be in my future so I need to make more personal changes. I am on blood preasure medication (that includes a water pill) but I take that in the AM so I just have to pee A LOT during the day. It doesn't seem to cause any issues at night that way. 

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Glad you've got the sleep apnea under control now. Your entire body won't function well without a proper rest at night so that should help in a lot of ways :)  Bedwetting can be a symptom, but sometimes a person begins sleeping so well after starting CPAP or BIPAP that they don't wake up when they need to pee anymore :rolleyes:

For the longest time I wanted to begin bedwetting again, but it wouldn't happen for some reason. Eventually I figured out that there was a subconscious mental block, and the cause behind that was all the associated problems such as you described. I remember the cold wet beds of my younger days, the hassles of having to do laundry constantly because of wet bedding, and the worries about it as I tried to go to sleep :angry: I love waking up in a soaked diaper :wub: but I can do that without having to do it totally in my sleep. I barely wake when I need to pee  at night and I barely remember doing it in the morning which is good enough for me, and that barely waking allows me to be cognizant of my diaper's condition so that if I leak it's because I wanted to, which sometimes I do :blush:

Do work on your diet. Of all the things you can control in your life, what you eat will have the biggest impact on your health in the long run. It can cause or contribute to many ailments :( My own digestive issues probably arose from a terrible junk food diet when I was younger and now I'm limited in what I can eat which takes a lot of the joy of eating away. Diabetes is closely linked to diet and weight, and modern studies show at least half of the cases in the US were probably avoidable. You can eat well without having to do away with favorite foods' just add the good stuff and reduce the things which are bad for you ;) 

Your body is a complex machine which is designed to last a lifetime if it's treated well. Any mistreatment will show up as a malfunction eventually :o You truly are what you eat, so eat wisely and become wise :P or eat junk and become junk :crybaby:

Bettypooh

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I've known I have Sleep Apnia for many many years.  I'm over weight for one, I also have type 2 diabetes.  Back in 2004 I did the sleep test and the results came back as sleep apnia, but I never got the CPAP.  It came down to doctor appointments or loosing my $50,000 a year (back then ) job.  I don't wet the bed but I do get up anywhere from 3 to as much as 8 times a night to pee.  As I get older and read about strokes and heart attacks that have greater risks for diabetics and people with sleep apnia, I got the ball rolling this month with a pulmonologist.  I had my CT scan of my lungs yesterday, have another test on December 22 and then the Sleep Apnia study again on January 8th.  In talking to my doctor, he stated that he felt my getting up so often every night to pee was due to the fact I wasn't sleeping deeply or properly, and when I did wake up briefly due to the apnia my brain would say I needed to pee.  He suspects that with a CPAP machine I won't have to get up to pee that much anymore.  On the other hand, he has no idea the volumn of pee I produce each night!  I expect my health and sleep will be much better if I do get the CPAP but I hope I don't sleep too deeply that I don't wake up when I have to pee!  Even though I wet the bed until I was almost 6 years old, I don't want to have to start wearing diapers to bed again!

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Well I've been using a BIPAP machine for sleep apnia since 11.20.2017 and since then I've only gotten up once to use the restroom. Your body shouldn't produce that much pee, if at all while you sleep. While I DEFINITLY sleep way better then I was and I have a history of bot waking up to use the restroom, that is no longer an issue now that I have a BIPAP machine. I think my sleeping was so bad that maybe body was not able to wake me up fast enough to make it to the restroom. I would wake up with the urgency to go and usually wouldn't even notice that I didn't make it till I got to the bathroom to find out my underwear was already soaked and my bed was wet (thank God for waterproof mattress cover :mellow:). I think because your body is performing so much better when it's getting the oxygen it needs at night that my old issues are no longer issues. I'm pretty convinced that sleep apnia might have been a MAJOR factor in a lot of issues I've experienced. 

I am going to work on my weight next. When I first created my profile on here, I weighed around 220 lbs but now I weigh 330 lbs. :unsure: I've really let my weight get out of hand but also, I quit smoking around the same time too so I ate more after that. Starting the new year, I'm going to start a low carb diet. I would start now but I just feel eith the holidays and my line of work, life is a bit too stressful to start it now. My goal is to loose 100 lbs. :P

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11 hours ago, rusty pins said:

I've known I have Sleep Apnia for many many years.  I'm over weight for one, I also have type 2 diabetes.  Back in 2004 I did the sleep test and the results came back as sleep apnia, but I never got the CPAP.  It came down to doctor appointments or loosing my $50,000 a year (back then ) job.  I don't wet the bed but I do get up anywhere from 3 to as much as 8 times a night to pee.  As I get older and read about strokes and heart attacks that have greater risks for diabetics and people with sleep apnia, I got the ball rolling this month with a pulmonologist.  I had my CT scan of my lungs yesterday, have another test on December 22 and then the Sleep Apnia study again on January 8th.  In talking to my doctor, he stated that he felt my getting up so often every night to pee was due to the fact I wasn't sleeping deeply or properly, and when I did wake up briefly due to the apnia my brain would say I needed to pee.  He suspects that with a CPAP machine I won't have to get up to pee that much anymore.  On the other hand, he has no idea the volumn of pee I produce each night!  I expect my health and sleep will be much better if I do get the CPAP but I hope I don't sleep too deeply that I don't wake up when I have to pee!  Even though I wet the bed until I was almost 6 years old, I don't want to have to start wearing diapers to bed again!

I have a couple comments and questions. Are you taking any medications that could cause you to have to pee so much during the night? I had this experience a while back when I was on a high dose of medical steroids. I couldnt stop peeing at night and made sure to wear a diaper because even if I was awake when I had to go I couldnt always make it to the bathroom. I also wonder if weight plays a role in bladder control. I am 40 pounds heavier now than I used to be mainly due to psychiatric meds I think. Since gaining the weight I seem to have more problems with bladder control. Again it could be more the fault of the meds but I often wonder if the weight plays a role. I have had problems with daytime urge incontinence since gaining weight and have read there can be connection.

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On ‎12‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 9:11 PM, rubbersheetmike said:

I have a couple comments and questions. Are you taking any medications that could cause you to have to pee so much during the night? I had this experience a while back when I was on a high dose of medical steroids. I couldnt stop peeing at night and made sure to wear a diaper because even if I was awake when I had to go I couldnt always make it to the bathroom. I also wonder if weight plays a role in bladder control. I am 40 pounds heavier now than I used to be mainly due to psychiatric meds I think. Since gaining the weight I seem to have more problems with bladder control. Again it could be more the fault of the meds but I often wonder if the weight plays a role. I have had problems with daytime urge incontinence since gaining weight and have read there can be connection.

No meds.  I been getting up to pee since in my 20's and sometimes I get up 3 times a night, I average 4 to 6 depending on when I go to bed.  I usually go to bed around 10pm and get up around 7am.  Prostate has ben checked.  last night I may have produced a little more than a cup and a half of pee.  Some nights it's close to a quart.  Even at work (and I had a friend the same way), sometimes I would have to pee every 20 to 30 minutes in the morning for a couple hours.  Not all the time, but now and then.  I'm sure weight and diabetes play a roll in urinating so much.  I know diabetes does.  Hopefully with a CPAP I will get better sleep and less peeing at night.  I'm also gradually losing a little weight.

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Continuous inconsistency in the timing and quantity of urine release is one of the main indicators of a nerve related problem. It will be a life-long issue in that case :whistling: I should know because that's me. Except at my worst times I was peeing (or trying to) as often as every 5 minutes :o Sometimes a flood, sometimes nothing, and no way of knowing what was coming next, Only my intentional ending of bladder control has made the situation tolerable and only diapers made that possible. The excessive waking up at night to pee just robs your body of it's needed rest and exacerbates the problem :angry:

And now that I no longer try for bladder continence, the timing and quantity of my bladder releases is much closer to what it should be- Go figure :P:roflmao:

Bettypooh

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I will say that I am overweight, close to 300 pounds (been losing some weight gradually) but I have never ever had any problems holding my pee.  No problems in the day, none at night either and I'm 59.  Weight has played absolutely no factor in my bladder control.  I have excellent control and hope to have it all my life.  My dad will be 98 in a few months and also has perfect bladder control.

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I've been using a cpap for about 12 years, full face mask too.  The best thing to help with the dry mouth is humidity. I have my machines humidifier cranked as high as it goes, my machine has a heated hose too so I don't get rainout (or waterboarded in my sleep)

the correlation between bedwetting and an apnea event is simple, when you stop breathing your brain does what it needs to do to survive.... and holding your bladder closed isn't on that list of things to do.

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I know you can heal from slepp apnea and reverse T2 by following a ketogenic diet. It's not quite difficult but when starting. The purpose is to eat just few carbs and replace them by good fats, it may seen awfull but once you told your brain fat is good for you you can enjoy that new way to live.

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I'm going in on January 8 for the overnight sleep apnia testing.  I got a call yesterday from the department who will be doing the testing asking me questions like if I smoke, drink, my medications, telling me where to go and what time to be there and reminding me to fill out the 8 page paperwork I was given at the doctor office.  I also have to do a week long sleep log noting each day when I went to bed, how long it took me to fall asleep, how many times I woke up, how many times I woke to use the bathroom, etc.  One of the questions was to mark all that applied and they listed about 10 things.  Night sweats, night terrors, restless legs and the last one was if I was a bedwetter!  I'm not, but that tells me they do have bedwetters who do the sleep testing or it wouldn't be among the things to check off.  Naturally you have to bring your own night clothing, toiletries and pillow if you chose to do so.  I just wonder what the people who do the testing think as they attach all the sensors on a person who's fully diapered, then watching them get into bed and are observing them as they sleep in their diapers and especially if one of the sensors they put on their body detects them wetting themselves in their sleep!  Waking them up in the morning when the testing is over and seeing them getting out of bed in their soaking wet diapers.

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I did my complete test 3-4 years ago (after doing a  mini version during a hospital stay where I was wearing diapers at night) , and don't recall the question about wetting the bed in the paperwork?  It may have been asked by the attendant but I don't recall?  In any case, I was woken up several times over the night and asked if I needed the bathroom on each occasion, helped there when I did considering all the gadgets attached. 

I am certain that some folks do wear diapers during this procedure, considering all the different people doing these tests.

Glad now that I did do this and was given a CPAP, as it certainly helps me through the night!

 

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One of my long-lost friends once worked as a monitor at a sleep clinic. She said it was the most boring job in the world just watching a room full of sleeping people :roflmao: Where she worked they did have the occasional bedwetter and crossdresser. Hers was a public clinic so no privacy, and that did cause some folks to not share their usual sleeping habits which skewed the results of the test :( Thus I'd recommend that you go in doing what you normally do at bedtime. You won't be the first one in diapers, or with a teddy bear, or whatever :whistling:

Bettypooh

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Wow! I was just going to make a post about this when I found this. I have been a life long bedwetter. I used to wet only a few times a year. The occasional wetting, and my love of diapers ,I would wear diapers occasionally. After my wife got soaked a few times and she found out I like the diapers, long story short, I am diapered almost every night now. In recent years if not diapered I will get up 3 or more times a night to pee. The more times I need to pee the more chances for an accidental wetting when not diapered. I thought it was because I was diapered most nights and wet more freely and was used to wetting more. When diapered I don't wake up usually but my increased wetting has lead to thicker diapers. So I have been sick lately and over tired. Mentioned it to my doctors and they said I should get a sleep study. When I met with the sleep doctor he said it can make you pee more as your body is not staying in sleep mode and you create more urine in wake mode. Thus peeing more at night. I told him I was wearing protection at night cause of this. This among many other things I did have that apnea causes we decided to do the sleep study. I have mild apnea they said and it was waking me up at night. I started my CPAP machine a week ago and am sleeping great now. My diapers are less wet in the morning, I am dreaming nightly, only got up once to pee the night I wasn't  diapered, and much more awake. I love it. I have the full mask and love the humidifier thing. Much less cotton mouth. Maybe now my wife will allow thinner night diapers? Doubt it but I may have to ask.

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Interesting.  I don't wet the bed and haven't since I was about 6 years old, but I have very severe sleep apnia.  The results show that I stopped breathing 57 times for more than 10 seconds within an hour's time and my oxygen level dropped from 95 to about 84 when it happened.  I just got the call yesterday for my appointment to get fitted for my CPAP.  All that said, I usually get up 4 to as much as 8 times a night to pee.  The average is 6 times each night and I can fill up a large casino coin bucket each night, sometimes less and sometimes more.  My doctor actually said he thought there was the possibility I got up to pee so much because I was waking due to the apnia and stopping breathing.  I'd wake from not breathing and then realize I had to pee and I had to get up and pee.  Hoping for better sleep with the CPAP, I was worrying that I would sleep deeper and not wake up when I had to pee, thus wetting the bed.  I doubt that would be an issue, especially since my brother with his CPAP gets up at night when he has to pee, but it was in the back of my mind.  I'll just have to wait and see if I sleep deeper and don't get up as often to pee anymore with the CPAP.

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So I have been on my CPAP machine for a little while now. I love it. I sleep much better. Sadly being ill I couldn't wear it for about a week. When I do wear it I am waking up in dry diapers many nights. Desperate need to wet in the morning and wet before I get up for  breakfast, but still getting up dry none the less. If I wake wet I am usually just slightly wet. I almost think I could get by with no diapers or a good disposables for bed, but as of yet my wife still wants the thick cloth ones. Makes me wonder if this was my problem most of my life? Now on a side note I have had an anxiety problem going on since my Tia stroke thing. The anxiety thing has been causing me to wet during the day sometimes. So I am getting dry at night but ironically I am now having trouble during the day. Wearing diapers is slowly becoming more regular all day. I have thought about 24/7 before but if this doesn't change I may be there want it or not. At least I don't mind wearing diapers. For may this increases the anxiety if it happens. I actually find it comforting to be diapered on my bad days.

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I have been on my CPAP for a little over 3 weeks.  I went back to exchange my first mask (full face) as it was rough sleeping on my side with it scrunched into the pillow.  I had some good nights and some bad nights but each time I had no problems waking up 6 times a night to pee.  My sleep is always restless as my mind just doesn't seem to shut down and I think of things, have music and movies going through my head and dreams.  The tech who fitted me for the new pillow mask (fits in the nostrals only) said that eventually getting up that often to pee would taper off.  Last night I did wake up with the feeling of having to pee but I laid there and drifted off to sleep again for another hour before waking to get up and pee.  Usually I can't fall back to sleep unless I get up and pee.  I do hope that I can get up less than 6 times a night to pee, right now it averages about once every 75 minutes, but I have been waking to pee all my life and I just can't see the CPAP changing that.  I never want to wet the bed or have to wear diapers to bed, and I think CPAP or no CPAP, I will still wake up each time I have to pee and go to the bathroom.  My apnia test showed that I stopped breathing for over 10 seconds 57 times in a little over an hour.  With the CPAP it showed for the past 20 days that I stopped breathing for over 10 seconds an average of only 2 times in a four hour period!  It works!

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I personally use the Resmed Airfit P10 pillow myself.  The go inside my nose and only has one strap.  I just couldn't sleep with either the full mask or the mask that covers your nose. But once I combined a head strap to keep my mouth closed and the nasal pillow mask, I was out like a light and all the bedwetting issues I've ever had stopped completethly. The only issue I sometimes experience is sometimes I have to re-adjust the straps to prevent air leakage or I have to blow my nose due to moisture from the humidifier causing some slight air leak.  But usually corrected pretty quickly. I just couldn't sleep with any other mask (besides the Philips Dreamwear resperonics nasal mask but there was to much leakage sure to the pressure muy machine requires. 

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I agree about the pillow mask.  The hardest thing about it is keeping your mount closed.  So far I haven't had much problem doing that, but it's only been 3 nights and I have woken in a half slumber when I opened my mouth.  For those who have never used a pillow mask, the CPAP forces air through your nostrils only.  Since it's forcing air through your nose, if you open your mouth the forced air comes right out!  It's kind of a weird sensation to say the least.  Pros and cons so far is the nasel pillow mask is so much lighter with only 2 thin elastic straps and is more comfortable, but you need to keep your mouth closed.  Yes, you have to turn off the CPAP and remove the mask from your nostrils to blow your nose.  If you have a cold or plugged up nose, it won't work.  I have my full face mask for those situations.  Problem with the full face mask is it's heavier, not as comfortable for a side sleeper, has a lot more elastic straps and fittings that can seem a little tight around your head, and I had to keep adjusting the straps whenever I changed sides I was sleeping on.  When you have an itch on your face under the mask, it's hard to scratch!  I will have both masks with me at home and when I travel, but so far the pillow mask is much better.  I may not have drank as much yesterday but it seems I didn't get up quite as much as usual to pee last night.  Still have to give it time and see if last night was a fluke or if I still average 6 times or more a night to get up and pee.

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I have been on a CPAP, since 2006, I am a mouth breather, so I had to get used to the full face mask, it took 5-6 months for me. But now I have problems getting to sleep without my mask on, unless I'm in my recliner, LOL. I am on pain pills, so I sometimes don't get tired enough to sleep till 3-5 am. My wife gets quite upset with me, but I don't know what to do about it if you can't sleep you can't sleep. anyhow, I haven't seen any difference with wetting being any easier. I would rather just sleep wet, than wake up 6 times to go to the restroom I do get more rest when I do sleep. I was told without my CPAP I stop breaking once every 3 minutes so I just wake up a little and let it flow, then back to sleep. With diapers I don't have to worry about actually getting up to go.

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One thing that will cause you to get up 3 or more times a night is peripheral edema in the feet and legs. when you are up during the day gravity causes fluid buildup in your legs When you lay down to sleep this fluid build up will cause you to need to pee a number of times to get rid of the fluid. My feet and legs swell up during the day so much i have a hard time getting my boots on in the evening. but if i put my boot on early in the morning they go right on.

And yes i have sleep apnea, diabetes and had a heart attack back in 2005 after being DXed with sleep apnea but before i got my C-pap.

Have not had any heart problems since.

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