Windows 10

[Dubious]

I upgraded from W7 and I love W10

Not used it that much yet, but its much easier to use

[Repaid1]

Some people just refuse to give change a chance I guess...

By the way, I'm still waiting for it to give me the option

I was on the reserve list too, why don't you just use the link that DD posted...don't work for overseas?

[Bettypooh]

@ repaid1- Did Cortana offer to do it?

Everyone know how I detest Microshaft's way of doing things. It's not so much the changes, but the ones they force on you without the option to configure them any way other than theirs, and the changes they don't tell you about until you discover them post-installation At least they didn't sock you in the wallet this time around. Yet. That really worries me because we all know someone has to pay for the massive effort which designing a new OS entails and it ain't going to be them; you can't sell an intentional loss of that size to the stockholders who are seeking gains so where is that money going to come from and how? W10 doesn't pass the fish test with me

Bettypooh

[SunOfSheep]

Its better then windows 8 il give them that, i'm not one for a flashy GUI tho, if windows ever makes a bussness line thats sriped down and keeps a simple start bar id use it.

For now il be sticking with ubuntu @

[Rockies Fan in Diapers]

I still have at least 20 ZIp disks in my office supply cabinet lol

Do they still sell Zip Drives & Zip Disks, or do you just have an older computer that has a Zip Drive in it that you use the Zip Disks with? Back in the day, those were the thing for external storage without the big cost of external Hard Drives.

[DailyDi]

Nah, they don't sell them anymore, I have a bunch of the disks and a USB-powered drive I use to pull really old files off of from time to time.

[Elfy]

I didn't even notice the links to manually download

Started them now!

[Dirty Diaper/Maxipad Lover]

I don't think products like this are deliberately outdated... Technology in the computing World moves at a rapid pace though, so what was top of the line a year or so ago is just mid range a few years later as technology improves.

I wouldn't say products like this are deliberately outdated so much as they're unnecessarily updated. Windows XP worked wonderfully by the time Vista was released, and any improvements were easily offset by the fact that Vista was a disaster. Windows 7 was a huge improvement over Vista, but there are plenty of people who still saw no reason to upgrade from Windows XP. I'd say it was a necessary upgrade for some people but not others as evidenced by the fact that there were still a decent number of people clinging to Windows XP when Microsoft dropped support for it. Windows 8 was completely unnecessary as far as upgrades go. Windows 7 was working, and Windows 8x was a solution in search of a problem. This isn't exclusive to Windows either though, Linux and OS X are in the same boat. I know people who haven't upgraded OS X simply because they didn't feel that they needed the upgrade, just as Windows XP users didn't feel they needed Microsoft's upgrades.

Also, when it comes to computers, the technology is no longer changing at a rapid pace anymore, and hasn't been since sometime between 2004-2006. (The shift to 64-bit and multi-core processors kept it going beyond 2001, but the writing was on the wall for this as far back as 2000.) In the past you pretty much had to upgrade or replace your computer every three years if you did anything advanced with it. (If you were lucky you could push it to every five years.) That's not longer the case though, and today the majority of what most people use their computers for can be done just as well on both a modern machine and a machine that's 10 years old. Even "high-end" tasks like graphic design can be handled without any noticeable issues on older equipment. There might be little conveniences in new machines with new OSes, but nothing Earth-shattering the way it used to be, at least not with the majority of OS ugprades. In a few months I'll be installing a new OS on a machine that's roughly seven years old, and that still functions just fine. (Despite its age it runs circles around some newer machines that should theoretically be leaving it in the dust based on the fact that they're half the age of my older machine.) This is a far cry from 15 years ago when I bought computers fully expecting to replace them within 3-5 years because they'd become too slow to use for modern tasks.

[LilFozzyJ5]

we still need to use floppy discs at work for some of the aircraft systems

the tech is 20 yrs old...

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

Which floopies are we talking about here? I used and remember the 5-1/2" floppies, It is what I used learning Pascal on an Apple IIe

[Fulldiaper]

Did the Windows 10 jump also. Took about an hour, went pretty smoothly. Don't have all drivers for the new OS or installation media should the system crash or require a reinstall.

[Wet Knight]

Which floopies are we talking about here? I used and remember the 5-1/2" floppies, It is what I used learning Pascal on an Apple IIe

So these aren't the 5 1/2" floppies that are cured by Viagra?

[Bettypooh]

Am seeing reports that video viewing programs run faster and more smoothly which should make drone pilots happy

Bettypooh

[DiaperPony]

Removing features is not a problem that is limited to Windows. It happens on Android and even in some open source projects. For example, I could be assured that every new version of Gnome would be worse than what I was using, because they had a philosophy of removing configuration options where they could. If you used the default, you were safe, but if you had changed it, then you were in trouble. I liked to say "Gnome was always better in the past". I switched to KDE, where for a while (until KDE 4) they seemed to allow tons of options and configuration. Not everything worked together, but I was willing to put up with it for the increased flexibility.

Edited August 1, 2015 by DiaperPony

[Elfy]

I think the problem there is you are looking at it from the POV of a developer... Most people, a vast majority even, just want to be able to turn something on and use it.

Not everyone has the time and/or inclination to spend time learning new programs and stuff all the time, a vast majority just want the simple things they know and that's it.

[Rockies Fan in Diapers]

Thanks DD for the links to start the upgrades on my own, that way I don't have to wait & I can do them on my time.

[Elfy]

I upgraded both my PC and laptop today, went well, I like the new look and it seems to be running very smoothly.

[DiapermanAl]

Im trying to get it. but it's stuck on working on it for the last 2 hours. I gave up lol.

[Rockies Fan in Diapers]

Im trying to get it. but it's stuck on working on it for the last 2 hours. I gave up lol.

Be Patient. Dependent on the speed of your processor, internet connection, etc. it may take awhile. For Example, my laptop which is about 5 & 1/2 years old took longer than my Desktop to upgrade, because my desktop is only about a year & a half old. If it was errors, just give it some time & try again later. So far, I like the upgrade, & I was using XP on one computer & 7 on the other. Still getting used to it though.

Rockies Fan

[Dirty Diaper/Maxipad Lover]

we still need to use floppy discs at work for some of the aircraft systems

the tech is 20 yrs old...

This doesn't really surprise me. I occasionally still have to pull data from Floppies too, but not for anything as "mission critical" as aircraft systems. I actually knew a place that used MS-DOS and floppies for their teleprompter system, because nobody wanted to throw money at something newer to spit out text that a Pentium II was handling just fine. I'm pretty sure they were forced to upgrade though when they switched to newer tripods and prompters that used more modern hardware. (The newer equipment was much easier on the eyes, and the newer tripods were easier on the people operating the cameras, so I can understand the reason for the changes.)

Which floopies are we talking about here? I used and remember the 5-1/2" floppies, It is what I used learning Pascal on an Apple IIe

The ones on my desk and the ones I still occasionally use are all 3.5" floppies. I never owned a 5.25" floppy drive until long after the disks for it were obsolete. I do have a handful of 5.25" floppies though, primarily for older equipment I've accumulated over the years. (I need someone who can re-align the drives for my C64 so I can actually play around with it and the software that I have for it.) I actually know someone who has at least one 8.5" floppy like the ones that the launch codes are still stored on. (It used to get passed around at parties for everyone to look at, so I've actually held the thing on a couple of occasions.)

I think the problem there is you are looking at it from the POV of a developer... Most people, a vast majority even, just want to be able to turn something on and use it.

Not everyone has the time and/or inclination to spend time learning new programs and stuff all the time, a vast majority just want the simple things they know and that's it.

This is true, the majority of people just want something they're familiar with, and they expect it to work out of the box without having to figure out what sub-menu a particular function is buried under. The average user doesn't have the time or interest in figuring out how to use features they don't need. Likewise, people who use professional software like their settings to stay consistent, precisely because they don't want to waste time learning where the tools that they rely on were moved too since that's time that could be spent doing the work that they're using the professional software for in the first place. Part of the reason I didn't upgrade Adobe Photoshop that frequently (aside from its price,) was that Adobe loves to move buttons and functions around for no apparent reason. Time spent finding where things were moved and breaking muscle memory is time that's not being spent actually using Photoshop to get something done, and I say that as someone whose pretty tech savvy when he needs to be. Part of the reason I got fed up with Windows is because basic functions that I relied on were always being moved around, forcing me to relearn everything I'd just gotten used too. Eventually it became more of a headache than it was worth and I started experimenting with other OSes.

[Elfy]

Im trying to get it. but it's stuck on working on it for the last 2 hours. I gave up lol.

I had to leave my PC on overnight to get it to finish, took a very long time but got there in the end.

[dlsmd]

I'll wait till the community tests it out for a few months to see what the bugs are

[Loveable_guy]

Which floopies are we talking about here? I used and remember the 5-1/2" floppies, It is what I used learning Pascal on an Apple IIe

If I recall the first floppies were 8" or something. Next

Edited August 2, 2015 by Loveable_guy

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

Two things I avoid like the plague are Norton and MacAfee. I use avast! and Malware Bytes

I remember, but never used the 8" floppies

My first "ride" was a TRS-80 Model I Level II and I lived it, on which I put a big pink satin bow and we dubbed it "Trissie"

[dlsmd]

my biggest issues so far is the way Win 10 spies on you

but there are things you can do

like this

or

Edited August 2, 2015 by dlsmd