Elfy Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Since Putin is so concerned with making the Crimea Russian again (since it was historically Russian) maybe he will want to give Karelia back to Finland or how about East Prussia, Outer Manchuria, Tuva... and let's not even mention the Caucasus. How about recognising Kosovo's independence? Georgia? Interesting how a 97% majority occured in the referendum when we all know the Tartars have 0 desire to be part of Russia. Not to mention twice as many Ukrainians. Very interesting indeed that over a third of the countries population only contributed to 3% of the vote. If people just let Putin takes what he wants it stakes a dangerous precedent. What about Lithuania, Estonia and the other former Soviet lands that are "historically Russian"? We tried appeasement once before, didn't work out so good when the we tried it with the Nazis... Link to comment
BigC300 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Too bad Crimea isn't located in Kansas. We do have Trident Submarines within striking range to completely incinerate the Russian Federation. Never mind the B-2's. If we don't smoke them first, they could smoke us. We call this mutually insured destruction. Link to comment
Elfy Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 Actually its called Mutually Assured Destruction but anyway... Link to comment
BigC300 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 We could mine the waters used by the Black Sea Fleet to stop Putin from using his Navy...of course he could send Submarines to attack the Sixth Fleet in Norfolk...tit for tat Link to comment
BigC300 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Putin thinks we're just about fed up with being world policeman, as we make time payments on Iraq and Afghanistan. Link to comment
Joanne_chan Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 A "can of worms" has been opened I fear undoing all that rightly or wrongly has been worked through since WW2 to the point that at least people can live with it and we're not killing each other because of it.Anyone with a passing knowledge of the borders of Link to comment
jonoz Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I've been watching this all unfold very carefully. Link to comment
Guest diaperboykcmo Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Obama's WEAK, and the Bad guys know it! Link to comment
AwakenEvil Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Its funny how everyone wants to defend democracy and when their people went to vote to secede everyone wants to cry foul. Link to comment
Guest diaperboykcmo Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Yeah real fair vote, when Russian troops are right outside with GUNS! Link to comment
Guest diaperboykcmo Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 the "bad guys" lol Link to comment
alex 04 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 just hope the uk army stay away they don't have the man power now Link to comment
dlover49 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Ukrainians have been dominated by the "great Russians" off and on for centuries. Link to comment
Bettypooh Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Yes, there are precedents and similarities to earlier situations. And yes, I feel this was badly bungled from the get-go. But in practical reality, there is little which the world or any part thereof can do about Putin without opening the possibility of much harm being done to many innocent people. Nobody wants war. Nobody (save for Putin and his kind) wants anything save for Crimea being able to do as it's people want to do. And at this point in things, it's too late to do anything significant about this without making the whole situation worse for everyone Link to comment
kevindhca Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Putin has made a calculated bet that no one will impose serious economic sanctions on Russia. The West has no appetite for any moves that would damage their own economy's. Since Russia has a veto at the security council, the UN will not be able to do anything either. Whatever happens in the future, it will get the rest of the worlds attention. Link to comment
Baby Brian Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Obama's WEAK, and the Bad guys know it! Link to comment
AwakenEvil Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Yeah real fair vote, when Russian troops are right outside with GUNS! 1 Link to comment
Guest diaperboykcmo Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Where to Start, Where to Start.. Link to comment
AwakenEvil Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Under Obama my 401k has gone way up Link to comment
Guest diaperboykcmo Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Good for you awakenevil.. Link to comment
BabyChris121675 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 BOTH need to stay out of Crimea- RUSSA AND THE WEST- they need to stay OUT! Link to comment
BabyGizmo Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 there is like 22 trains of thought in that post, im going to answer them all in one big swoop. listen carefully MR. Informed American. 1 Link to comment
Guest diaperboykcmo Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 You're RIGHT Obama is WEAK! Link to comment
Guest diaperboykcmo Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Enter Gizmo! The Smartest man in the Room! LOL... I've found those who ACT and Think they're the smartest ones. Really Aren't! Link to comment
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