My "Huse Anal Rings" Diary...

[Creepymouse]

I talked to Mommy a little bit yesterday during a long drive, about the thread here regarding the holey-catheter method of simulated incontinence. I also mentioned the rings from Huse that fit the description of the oft-requested "hollow butt plug" I remember searching for years ago. We talked about it for a time and she asked if it would be sensual for me to experience that lack of control. She ordered me to buy a set of the rings, and promised that I *will* be using them before too long.

We talked about a variety of scenarios, but mostly at least semi-private. In the past, I have taken large doses of psyllium fiber for weeks at a time, and I've enjoyed the pressure and gas that can be associated with it, as well as the somewhat unpredictable need to poop. Combine that with the inability to hold anything in, I'm squirming in anticipation.

She ordered me not to open the package when it arrives, as she won't be home until next weekend. I am to 'practice' with my other plugs and take my fiber daily and wait for her to get back.

I'm not certain what she has in mind, but she's been working on her domme side, so things could be interesting. We had about an hour of 'pillow talk' last night about the possibilities and boy was she enjoying herself with the ideas she was coming up with. O.o I'll try to let ya'll know if they're worth the money! I know not everyone is into messy accidents, and I prefer solid messes, but the sheer fantasy aspect of surrendering control like that... mmm

[babychrise]

I've looked at the huse rings, but I wasn't sure that they'd stay put during a BM. Did you end up getting the harness as well? Sounds like your mommy has some plans for you when they arrive. Can't wait to hear your report.

[Creepymouse]

No harness, as that would make cleanup even more of a chore, I'd hate to ruin it.

The largest size is nearly three inches in diameter at the 'head' with and 1.5" hole. I am pretty 'limber' back there (slept with a 2 inch wide plug tonight) but I think it should stay put, I hope. Even when I'm not taking fiber supplements, I tend to have very soft BMs, and she intends me to take a lot of metamucil when I'm using those, so it should just kinda pour out before I even know it's coming.

[Creepymouse]

Well, they arrived today! 7:05 in the evening.

As expected, they are approximately the shape of a standard trailer hitch ball, but of course they have a hole down the middle. They also have two little nuts pressed into the 'outside' of them, apparently so you can bolt the harness to it, if desired.

The smallest one is a tad bigger in the neck than my biggest silicone buttplug, but it would be easily tolerable with about five minutes of stretching beforehand. I doubt that one will stay in. I am pretty confident I could get the middle one in without a herculean effort, but that looks like the one for me at the moment, as the largest one is...huge. I've been 'practicing' with my silicone plug and also an inflatible plug enema-nozzle which gets quite a bit bigger than my normal plugs, and quite enjoying the process. I've been told not to take them out of the package and to wait for my lady to get home before I'll be allowed to try them out.

I can't wait! *squee*

[Diapered Jason]

I have them, and they do not stay put at all. The harness is recommended, but they charge sooooo much.

I once slept with the smaller one in right after taking some oral bisacodyl and Metamucil. Slightly after 1:00 am, I awoke with a cramp, then all of a sudden, splat, there was a huge mess in my diaper. What an amazing feeling. Needless to say, I came right on the spot.

[Creepymouse]

Sounds like the experience I'm looking for.

I'm handy, I can probably come up with something to keep them in if necessary. I saw a video of the similarly-shaped MEO ring, the larger one apparently, and the person in the video clearly had some effort pushing it out normally, but could pull it out by hand and reinsert without too much trouble. Choosing the right size may be the key, don't know til I try.

If I have trouble with them, I may have to work on a modified shape using silicone or something, if nothing else an inflatable inner bulb would be practically foolproof (not unlike a foley catheter.)

[Baby Toni38]

I have had a set of these for awhile (before they came out with the harnes) and I just love them. A few tips I can give, insure that your stool is soft ( recomend using a stool softener, start a few days before intended use of the plugs) , use plenty of lube, take time to stretch and warm up the rectum before inserting ( just like working out. ).

Something that I have found that helps insertion is use something to temporarily plug the hole during insertion and remove it after the plug is seated.( I use a condom stuffed with TP or cotten balls.) By doing this it plugs the hole allowing the skin to slide around the plug ,insead of going in it, way more cofortable.

The only other advice I can give is take your time, it may take severial attempts to get it inserted and then it will take alot of relaxing and pratice ti get it seated cofortable for you to be able to walk, sit, and sleep with it in. I will add I have not had any problem keeping mine in place while donig the afore mentioned activites.

I have been able to wear the largest plug for five days straight, while going to work, shoping ect... The only thing that changed for me was more messy diapers to change. Good Luck and have fun.

Baby Toni

[Diapered Jason]

I have a long silicone ripple butt plug that I stick through the hole of the anal ring to help get things started. It really helps in getting the mid-sized ring in.

[Creepymouse]

Thanks for the tips, I think I have one or two other toys that may help getting them in. As far as soft BMs, mine are nearly always soft, and when I'm taking metamucil it's even moreso. Gonna play tomorrow night.

[Timby]

Thanks for sharing your experience with these toys.

I have played with this idea on and off over the years and I have come to the opinion that all these hollow plugs are just the wrong shape to work really well.

I looked at some anatomical drawings of the rectum and what is obvious is that there is a right angle turn after the anus. Very few solid toys take this into account, just some prostate simulators and one doc Johnson plug. But no hollow plugs think about it this basic anatomical fact..as strange as it seems.

That means that the interior hole is always pushing uncomfortably into the rectal wall. Imo this irritation contributes to the expulsion reflex and also means that there isn't an unimpeded path for poopy.

I have experimented with the best shape and am really close to having

a solution. I believe the answer is a buttplug with narrow flanges that will fit between the bum cheeks and minimise irritation when walking crawling or sitting. Then a longish narrow portion, long enough to clear the sphincter, then it turns about 90 degrees and opens out into an open cup, the shape of the rectum.

The plug will be cast from soft medical quality silicon rubber, but will need some plastic internal rings to stop the strong rectal muscles from squashing it flat and closing it all off.

I have made my design, I have made my prototype and cast a mould. I am just waiting for the delivery of my silicon rubber to cast my first plug, hopefully this weekend.

BTW preliminary testing was really promising. Plug inserted easily, but really comfortable and no reflex to expel.

I'll let you know how the first sample works .. oops on second thoughts ill take it to a new thread so as not to hijack creepys thread.

[Creepymouse]

I'll be looking forward to hearing about your device Timby, I've envisioned a similar design, but I haven't had the motivation to build such a thing.

[Creepymouse]

Well, I got a chance to try them out on Tuesday night, but I could barely handle the small one! o.O I guess the hard plastic made it more difficult than I imagined. I almost managed the middle one, but couldn't quite get it. As it was, the small one was comfortable when I was standing, but if I sat reclined, it gradually caused some soreness. Sitting 'up' made it more comfortable, but that gets tiring for the back after a while.

I spend Tuesday night wearing it, but had to take it out about 3:00am due to discomfort. I then spent most of Wednesday with it in. I had filled up on Metamucil on Tuesday, so an hour or so after I woke up I got a very squishy surprise, but it came very slowly and not at all what I imagined. Still, I could only barely feel it, and there was no control at all. I did end up 'pushing' since I was sitting down and I was having cramps, though if I had simply stood up, things might have taken their own course.

After a quick shower to clean up, I kept it in for the remainder of the day. No more messy diapers, though I did have some involuntary gas, which was interesting. I ended up not going again until Thursday afternoon, so that mess on Wednesday morning must have been the majority of the fiber. It wasn't as dense as I usually get when I load up on fiber, I wonder what made the difference.

Anyway, more when I try again.

[Pootattoo]

I just got a MEO type plug from a place I shall name later, (If that's okay,mods?) Anyways, I got the smallest size they offer, which is 1.5 inches at it's widest point, and the hole is smaller on the round end than it is on the flange end, apparently, to accommodate a shower shot, but it's hole is bigger than the MEO....

It was hard as all get out to get it in, but I found out that if I do a preliminary stretch with a butt plug of the same width, and use lots of lube (currently using off the shelf cocoanut oil), It slides right in!

I wore it for about 2 hours on Thursday night before it started to get uncomfortable, and so far, it hasn't tried to slip out on it's own.

Today, I'm going to try to keep it in all day, and have loaded up on high fiber cereal, and have taken a dose of Lactulose to try and soften things up a little more.

I'll post my results in the Stinky, Squishy, n' Proud forum.......

[DAQ]

I was looking at the website and couldn't find them. You have an item number or a link?

Thank you

[Timby]

I just completed my "Anal Cheater". Now it is in and the poop is squeezing out into my diaper. Oopsie.

It was quite a process. First made a plasticine pattern, which was the shape of the plug that I described earlier. In short it is an anatomically shape buttplug, with flanges shaped to slip between the buttocks and up to cup the perineum. I cast this into a 2 part plaster of paris mold. The parting line runs up the line of symmetry of the plug. Before I cast the plaster mold I also added a pouring tube, air tubes, and little registration flanges in the mold so that it locks together.

Once the plaster of paris mold was ready, I cast the solid plug in alginate. (This is really groovy stuff, its the stuff the dentist uses to cast molds of your teeth. It sets to a flexible solid in about two minutes. You can cast into it, once. But the main limitation is that it has a useful life of only two days.) I checked the shape and made some corrections to my mold by carving into the plaster and then carefully polished off the mold, as best as you can do in plaster.

Then I took the alginate protype cast and carefully trimmed it down with a craft knife to make the core or the mold. I wanted to take between 3 and 10mm of the alginate core all round. I kept checking against the plaster of paris mold to see how I was going. Once it was the right shape, I should have cast that core in plaster, but I took the short cut of use the alginate core. I sanded the core top make it as smooth as possible and then located into the master mold with wooden dowels.

Then I closed down my mold I taped up my mold with duct tape. (this proved to be a slight mistake) . Then I mixed up my medical grade silicon. Its better quality stuff than most sex toys I don't have a degassing chamber so I just mixed it slowly so as not to introduce too many bubbles, then I got out my hitachi magic wand and vibrated the pot for about ten minutes to encourage as many bubbles to pop as I could. Then I crossed my fingers and slowly and gently poured the silicon into the mold.

OMG one day later and the silicone around the edge of the mold hasn't gone off. I try baking my silicone in a very low oven for an hour. Still it hasn't polymerised. OK this could be a disaster but i Took the risk and popped open the mold. Yey it worked, the plug was beautifully set, a milky clear colour, it was just the local bits that were in contact with the duct tape that didn't go off. Note to self, platinum cure silicon hates plastic, including duct tape.

So now its just trimming up my new toy, inserting and gluing in some plastic reinforcement to stop the plug from collapsing under muscular contraction - and we are good to go.

Lube up, relax, work on my bottom to make it relax for a minute or so. Then I ease in my "Anal cheater". It requires a special technique of rolling it in, but the insertion isn't particularly difficult. But I must admit, it isn't the first anal toy that has seen this place. It sucks up into place like a charm, and it immediately is comfortable. There is no discomfort and no reflex to expel, which is interesting. A sample squeeze indicates it will take quite a lot of straining to dislodge unlike every other plug I have tried.

The slightly loose and sticky BM starts too ooze out of my bum over about twenty minutes. But I want something a bit more dramatic to try it out. So I hook up a small enema, maybe about a pint and thread the nozzle down into my diaper and plastic pants and connect it to the anal opening of my new toy. The water gushes in easily. Great indication that the opening is completely unobstructed. I hold the enema for about five minutes and then climb into my cot and I'm in bliss as I feel wave after wave of sloppy poop ooze out into my diaper. Wow!

I've changed into a pull up and plastic pants (messsy now.. oops) and am sitting as I write this this. Its probably been about two hours and there is a mild bit of discomfort now, I think around the anus..maybe it was been held open too long and it is complaining. It just needs to learn to relax and get over it. But overall I would say that it is a longer term proposal. Definitely you would be able to sleep in it.

Overall definitely a success.

[Creepymouse]

I had thought of making some prototypes with good silicone, but good silicone can cost more than the pre-made toys. o.o I DO want to play with making some anatomical-ish breast forms, the ones I made for the wife to try are great, but they're hot pink and have a weird unnatural nipple from how they were made.

I agree with the discomfort being from long-term wear, I believe this is why many 'pros' say that safe anal play actually strengthens the sphincter muscles, as opposed to the common idea that anal sex causes incontinence over time.

[Timby]

Yes good silicone is expensive. My 1kg cost me $66-. And one kg. won't go far if you are making boobies. (My hollow plug took 200grams) Completely off topic, but you could cast in milk ducts connected to the nipples - connect to a bottle filled with your tipple of choice and you're in for some fun.

Even cooler would be to cast the fluid container into the breast form. Admittedly filling up mummies titties and screwing the cap on might seem a little weird but the self contained system would be truly awesome

The ideal solution would be to find someone willing to have their breasts cast in alginate to make the mold. Any takers?

Yes, i concur. My discomfort statement was just a throw off. But on the otherhand, most anal tools are short term only. I really believe long term wearing of the existing shapes of plugs occurs far more often in fantasy than it does in real play. I am ready to be corrected, but I feel any plug of a usefully large size is far too uncomfortable to be accommodated for any length of time.

[wetman]

<partial OT warning>

Hi Timby, as you can probably tell from my avatar, I'm into crossdressing. Regarding your idea about boobies (aren't those birds?), erm, breastforms, have a look at this: http://www.proactiveprosthetics.com . This company has been around for a long time, and while they're a bit on the expensive side, they seem to be the Maybach of all falsies. Including your brestfeeding concept. I haven't had any dealings with them, they're a bit above my pocket money; although, they're just an hour away from me, so one day I could be tempted just to go and see what they're like...

Back to the topic.

Timby, is there a chance at all for some pictures? Doesn't have to be ultra quality, or in use, just the 'cheater' itself to give me a clearer idea how you followed the anatomy.

Pwetty pleathe?

[wetman]

Nuffin' happnin' ?

[Creepymouse]

We've been focusing on Mommy's upcoming breast augmentation, so since that one scene, we haven't been playing much with the new toys. I'll probably get them out soon to play, after we get back and she's recovering.

As far as your previous post, I like the ideas you posted. It isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I really like the concept of the Mastasia prosthetics, which are apparently custom made for their particular fetish porn. The giant prosthetics are much lighter than they would be if they were flesh-and-blood, most of those models wouldn't be able to stand for long, but the nipples can spray very lifelike streams of milk for their videos, which is really cool.

I'd love to do some experimentation with silicone, as well as the hot-melt rubber I have used in the past, but the aforementioned boob job is eating up most of my spending money at the moment. Maybe Mommy would be willing to offer her breasts to be molded for the cause? She's going to be around a 36H, if her body can handle the 1000cc fill we've asked for. I'd really love to get in to Hollywood style makeup effects, and I'm already quite interested in CGI in After Effects and such. The combination could create some of the most amazing fetish fantasy films, with some effort.

[wetman]

Got stuck, Timby?

[messyman]

I just ordered a set. Looking forward to the experience.

[DAQ]

Bought a set myself for Christmas(not exactly something you ask for from Santa). Anyway, have had a fairly rough time so far. Think the longest I have been able to keep the small one in is maybe an hour. But definitely getting better and can't wait to do longer time periods

[ianus]

The anal rings sound interesting, but myself i would be worried about the smell. My IBS would likely make it a bit hazardous to be around other people.

[wetman]

The anal rings sound interesting, but myself i would be worried about the smell. My IBS would likely make it a bit hazardous to be around other people.

Hi ianus

I think the 'hazardous' bit is what most people who try these open plugs are aiming for...