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If the gays are showing off or other kinky people are having fun diapers are ok.

HAHAHAH sorry just 'if the gays are showing off"

i mean its a nudist beach isn't EVERYONE showing off? gay straight or other????

giggles.... silly silly people

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It's closed minded viewpoints like this that I can't stand.

Diapers and intercourse are two totally separate things.

Do you go out in a tight top, short skirt, thong or bikini? Do those things make you feel sexy? Do they turn you on?

How about high heels or sandals? Some people have a foot fetish, does that mean they should not ever wear shoes in public?

Hell, there is a whole national restaurant chain based off of women dressing sexy.

Maybe everyone should just wear a burqua instead. Wouldn't want anyone in public being stimulated or exposed to something they might find unattractive.

Get over yourself. ABDL is not just a behind closed doors thing.

There are places where you can get in trouble for walking around in your underwear or something like a bikini, because it's just not an appropriate amount of clothing for the situation. The general rule is that if it's not somewhere where it would be acceptable to be running around with your underwear showing, it probly won't be acceptable to have a diaper showing there, either. Underwear is intended to be a private subject, and diapers are a type of underwear. Thus, diapers are really intended to be something private. That's why there's such a fuss raised when they're shown off in public settings. Depending on where you are, you could get arrested for indecent exposure or creating a public disturbance...

If you're looking for something acceptable, a situation like the top of the diaper peaking out of one's pants may be acceptable. Or possibly a woman with a short skirt and a diaper... Something that only offers a glimpse to those who may be looking for it. But not one in full view of everyone.

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Having your diaper peek out the back of your pants is obviously trying to be seen. I wear 24/7 and can say that if you even try at all to keep the diaper hidden, it stays hidden. Only someone who wants to have some diaper peeking will have said diaper peeking out the back of their pants. I know incontinent people, and they never have their diaper peeking out.

All I am saying is that most people know those who wear diapers try to keep them jidden, so anyone if you are walking along a beach and see someone with a diaper sticking out their clothes, they are obviously trying to get their kicks.

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Well yes if you are totaly determind to keep your diaper hidden you will, but if you are out and about and you have your jeans on along with a t-shirt, then yes you could end up with just a little bit of the top of your diaper on show.

But the best way realy sounds like a porn store, or as you also mentioned at some sort of fetish party,that way you would be exposing her as a diaper wearer,but in a safe enviroment,and the chance of upsetting anyone would be totaly taken away.

The best of luck to you both,and if she realy is up to being exposed as a diaper wearer then i truly do hope that all goes well for the two of you,it sounds like there could be a lot of fun between the two of you after that.

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There are places where you can get in trouble for walking around in your underwear or something like a bikini, because it's just not an appropriate amount of clothing for the situation. The general rule is that if it's not somewhere where it would be acceptable to be running around with your underwear showing, it probly won't be acceptable to have a diaper showing there, either. Underwear is intended to be a private subject, and diapers are a type of underwear. Thus, diapers are really intended to be something private. That's why there's such a fuss raised when they're shown off in public settings. Depending on where you are, you could get arrested for indecent exposure or creating a public disturbance...

If you're looking for something acceptable, a situation like the top of the diaper peaking out of one's pants may be acceptable. Or possibly a woman with a short skirt and a diaper... Something that only offers a glimpse to those who may be looking for it. But not one in full view of everyone.

i dont care where it is NO ONE is going to get arrested for indecent exposure.Disturbing the peace i agree.

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It's closed minded viewpoints like this that I can't stand.

Diapers and intercourse are two totally separate things.

Do you go out in a tight top, short skirt, thong or bikini? Do those things make you feel sexy? Do they turn you on?

How about high heels or sandals? Some people have a foot fetish, does that mean they should not ever wear shoes in public?

Hell, there is a whole national restaurant chain based off of women dressing sexy.

Maybe everyone should just wear a burqua instead. Wouldn't want anyone in public being stimulated or exposed to something they might find unattractive.

Get over yourself. ABDL is not just a behind closed doors thing.

Clearly, one should be allowed to go out diapered. The only question is if others will see. I tend to think that if they do, it's because you're flashing them. Not really inadvertent as you would want it. Then the question becomes is a 'recreational' diaper flashing nonetheless okay? Well, is it okay to call around asking about diapers without the intention of buying any? The clerk is there to sell diapers, right? Yes, but you're abusing that, I think, just as you are abusing somebody by making sure they see that somebody is diapered, from which it can reasonably be inferred that the diapers are being worn for fun, i.e., a kink.

I think it's best kept at home, only because I believe in do unto others, etc., and I don't think you get what you're really after without 'forcing' people to notice.

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Clearly, one should be allowed to go out diapered. The only question is if others will see. I tend to think that if they do, it's because you're flashing them. Not really inadvertent as you would want it. Then the question becomes is a 'recreational' diaper flashing nonetheless okay? Well, is it okay to call around asking about diapers without the intention of buying any? The clerk is there to sell diapers, right? Yes, but you're abusing that, I think, just as you are abusing somebody by making sure they see that somebody is diapered, from which it can reasonably be inferred that the diapers are being worn for fun, i.e., a kink.

I think it's best kept at home, only because I believe in do unto others, etc., and I don't think you get what you're really after without 'forcing' people to notice.

So, again. You are OK with women in short skirts and high heels, men in leather, people with funky bright purple hair, etc? How about toddlers running around with no pants on? There is a diaper exposed... and on a child, none the less. It all screams of double standards and hypocrisy.

It's all about being noticed, the world gets off on seeing and being seen. As long as it is not violating any laws there is no harm in it. Or would you rather have us all going around dressing as the Amish do?

IMO this nation is way too wrapped up in being offended. This offends me, that offends me, I don't want/need to see that. Well, if you don't like it then please turn your head the other way. Who really gives a rats ass if what they say or how they dress drops a few jaws? My fiancee wears kilts to work and out in public regularly (gasp!), and he is even diapered underneath (oh the horror!). Are you going to tell him that he is wrong for doing something that he likes to do?

In summary, screw what the conservatives think. If it were up to them we'd all still be dressing and acting as if it were 1909. It is perfectly OK to get out there and turn a few heads, especially while you are young. What is the point of life if everything interesting or exciting has to be done behind closed doors for fear of stepping on someone's toes?

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Sounds to me like you, Luvsgirl, are offended by those who themselves are offended by others who do stupid things.

Who is to say whose definition of stupid is right?

I don't particularly care for people who have their noses or tongues pierced, kids who put huge wings and mufflers on their compact cars, or folks that smoke dope with friends after class. They are all stupid decisions that can have varying negative consequences. From missing a job opportunity, to getting harassed by the cops, to going to jail. But I'm not all down on the people that do those things. It is hugely hypocritical to say "This is OK but that isn't." When in reality the people doing those things are all just after attention. Again, just because people disagree with an action does not make it wrong.

Those who are so strongly against any public diaper exposure need to open their eyes and take a long look at the world around them. There are millions of people doing controversial things every day. Don't be so quick to judge what is acceptable and what isn't. Fixed, unalterable points of view in an ever shrinking world are one of the reasons human society is in as much trouble as it is.

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Sounds to me like you, Luvsgirl, are offended by those who themselves are offended by others who do stupid things.

I'm not so willing to jump on the offended "bandwagon". People do what they want. No harm, no foul right?

I wouldn't say LuvsGirl is offended, more that she objects to the patent level of stupidity that some people seem to have.

The key to this argument, and its come up in many times and many places within the ab/dl and bdsm scene it always seems to come down to this:

How overtly sexual is it: One person's titillation, is another person's blase. We each participate to our own level. Each circumstance is unique.

As for a good place to humiliate your partner - how about in a private party... friends within the BDSM scene can be oh so helpfull

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So then the official rule for ALL diaper exposure should be:

1.) diaper exposure is acceptable ("acceptable" meaning tolerated by society's norms) when the exposure is NOT intentionally done with a direct result of impeding on the safety or well being of others in the vicinty. A diaper exposure that is intentional AND causes subsequent harm to the lives of those in the area is NOT acceptable. The only acceptable form of public exposure is when the either there is ZERO intent and it's accidental, or there is MINIMAL intent with no direct harm. ANY complete intention with fullblown exposure resulting in some mental or physical hardm to others is NOT ACCEPTABLE. Additionally, the exposure must not be performed to satiate some sexual fetish or sexual desire, as this would require the exploitation of innocent strangers for the benefit of a "cheap sexual thrill".

Seriously, people. Is it this hard to simply NOT expose your diaper to other people? If it's really so difficult to refrain from showing people you don't know your diaper, then mybe there IS an underlying mental issue. We are grownups and should behave as such, and should not have such a difficult time "keeping it in our pants". We have control....use it!!!

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Clearly, one should be allowed to go out diapered. The only question is if others will see. I tend to think that if they do, it's because you're flashing them. Not really inadvertent as you would want it. Then the question becomes is a 'recreational' diaper flashing nonetheless okay? Well, is it okay to call around asking about diapers without the intention of buying any? The clerk is there to sell diapers, right? Yes, but you're abusing that, I think, just as you are abusing somebody by making sure they see that somebody is diapered, from which it can reasonably be inferred that the diapers are being worn for fun, i.e., a kink.

I think it's best kept at home, only because I believe in do unto others, etc., and I don't think you get what you're really after without 'forcing' people to notice.

so in outher words your saying that if a persons diaper is showing thay are flashing people?GET REAL.so if a person bends down and ther diaper shows thay are flashing?give us all a break.and you think that you should not call around and see if someone has a cheaper one then the one your buying?i have call many places and not bought any.and im sure from the way you are talking you probably think gays should stay hidden

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So, again. You are OK with women in short skirts and high heels, men in leather, people with funky bright purple hair, etc? How about toddlers running around with no pants on? There is a diaper exposed... and on a child, none the less. It all screams of double standards and hypocrisy.It's all about being noticed, the world gets off on seeing and being seen. As long as it is not violating any laws there is no harm in it. Or would you rather have us all going around dressing as the Amish do?

IMO this nation is way too wrapped up in being offended. This offends me, that offends me, I don't want/need to see that. Well, if you don't like it then please turn your head the other way. Who really gives a rats ass if what they say or how they dress drops a few jaws? My fiancee wears kilts to work and out in public regularly (gasp!), and he is even diapered underneath (oh the horror!). Are you going to tell him that he is wrong for doing something that he likes to do?

In summary, screw what the conservatives think. If it were up to them we'd all still be dressing and acting as if it were 1909. It is perfectly OK to get out there and turn a few heads, especially while you are young. What is the point of life if everything interesting or exciting has to be done behind closed doors for fear of stepping on someone's toes?

Babies can run around butt-naked/ diapered but ADULTS CAN'T-- why? That's because it's the LAW... and if you disagree and do it anyway, you'll either have to pay fines or end up in jail. There's no double standard with this... babies are BABIES and adults are ADULTS. Just because an adult wears a diaper, they aren't entitled to a CHILD'S right!

"You are OK with women in short skirts and high heels, men in leather, people with funky bright purple hair, etc?"

Actually in certain public areas, thats NOT okay.

IMO this nation is way too wrapped up in being offended. This offends me, that offends me, I don't want/need to see that. Well, if you don't like it then please turn your head the other way. If you don't like it [Our nation's rules], then you don't have to live here.

My fiancee wears kilts to work and out in public regularly (gasp!), and he is even diapered underneath (oh the horror!). Are you going to tell him that he is wrong for doing something that he likes to do? No because he's obeying the law and not openly displaying it.

What is the point of life if everything interesting or exciting has to be done behind closed doors for fear of stepping on someone's toes? I feel sorry for you that you feel that way about living because life is a very beautiful thing. There are plenty of interesting & exciting things that we have the privillege and freedom to do. If you have this many qualms about America's ways, there are MANY MANY countries that will put you in jail if you don't dress the way they want-- especially if you're a woman! Judging by your post, it seems that you would have a much harder time in other countries that inflict those laws.

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Sorry, I am pointing this out in an attempt to eliminate some confusion I have with your conflicting statements.

Who is to say whose definition of stupid is right?

What is the point of life if everything interesting or exciting has to be done behind closed doors for fear of stepping on someone's toes?

You say, "Who is to say whose definition of stupid is right?" and the same goes for who is to say your definition of what's "exciting and interesting" is right... Again, I feel sorry for you and I really hope you can find plenty of exciting and interesting things to do that are legal in this country. :)

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I think you might be confused about the difference between immoral and illegal. There are people that walk around in diapers for a thrill. For the most part they are laughed at and ridiculed, but they aren't arrested unless they break some other law. Examples are in the news every now and then. Diapered perverts that intentionally expose their fetish to children for example. They aren't arrested for wearing diapers or even exposing their diapers. They are arrested because they ask kids to participate. Then there are the people that trick caregivers into changing their diapers, which is fraud - not indecency.

Fact is, there have been several local celebrity diaper wearers around the country in the past. They follow the laws, but still walk around with their diapers on full display. Most are actually folk heroes of a sort.

Basically, this all boils down to some people have their own morality issues on the subject. But, your morality is not everyone's morality. In my opinion, creating a disturbance because someone has a moral aversion to what you're doing is no disturbance at all.

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I think you might be confused about the difference between immoral and illegal. There are people that walk around in diapers for a thrill. For the most part they are laughed at and ridiculed, but they aren't arrested unless they break some other law. Examples are in the news every now and then. Diapered perverts that intentionally expose their fetish to children for example. They aren't arrested for wearing diapers or even exposing their diapers. They are arrested because they ask kids to participate. Then there are the people that trick caregivers into changing their diapers, which is fraud - not indecency.

Basically, this all boils down to some people have their own morality issues on the subject. But, your morality is not everyone's morality. In my opinion, creating a disturbance because someone has a moral aversion to what you're doing is no disturbance at all.

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Wearing a diaper under your clothes and acting like any other person is perfectly acceptable, even (in my opinion) a little diaper shows unintentionally out the back of your pants now and then when you bend over. It's the ones that purposly flash a diaper at unsuspecting people or who dress in baby outfits and diapers and act outlandishly that give the lifestyles a bad name. Thats why so many people think AB's are pedofiles that involve real children. Even DL's that flash diapers or go out places in just a diaper to get a reaction give the DL lifestyle unwanted attention.

Now, the debate has always come up in posts about wearing a diaper out in public and is it leagle or not. The consensus is that the laws may vary from state to state or county to county. Many say that a diaper isn't as reveling as a skimpy bikini or thong, and that's true. It's all about how people percieve what you are wearing. I think that bikinis are acceptable in some specific areas, like the beach. I would reason that a cute girl in a thong would not be welcomed in some places due to the nature of the garment. Hell, some restaraunts won't allow you in unless you have a suit and tie!

Here is the thing. It's not all about indecency in what you are wearing. If you have just a diaper on and your privates are covered, people will say that it's no worse than a skimpy bathing suit. It's all about the fact that it's not a bathing suit but a diaper and what a diaper is supposed to be used and worn for! Even people who need to wear diapers for incontinence don't go walking around in public in just their shoes, socks and diaper! They are properly attired in regular clothing. Most incontinent people don't want everyone to know they are wearing diapers, hence, when a person wears just a diaper openly in public it draws attention and makes people wonder WTF! The only reason I and most people could think of that a person was wearing nothing but a diaper out in public is to get a reaction from people! That in itself would call into question that person's mental state. Again, from the standpoint of indecency, it may break a law and it may not since the privates are covered, but you also have to think about creating a disturbance! Even attracting a croud to look at you could be creating a disturbance, let alone one person in the croud who starts shouting at you and calling you a freak! If there are children around then that would be worse as parents would complain.

People. Use a little common sense and just don't go around in public in just diapers. Like the Mythbusters always say, "Don't do it!"

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To be acceptable or not pervertewd it has to be accidental exposure. My ex wore skirts all the time and on ocassion if she bent over to pick something up and you were a pervert you'd notice her diaper. that is exposure that is guilt free. not that she cared, she was incontinent so exposure is going to happen one way or another. Simply walking out with a giant rattle, a t-shirt and a diaper is just innaporpriate,.

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Those who are so strongly against any public diaper exposure need to open their eyes and take a long look at the world around them. There are millions of people doing controversial things every day. Don't be so quick to judge what is acceptable and what isn't. Fixed, unalterable points of view in an ever shrinking world are one of the reasons human society is in as much trouble as it is.

All I'm talking about is the golden rule: do unto others as you would have done unto you.

There is no hypocrisy here, no morality, no cringing over the reputation of the AB/DL community. My point isn't even about exposing your diapers. It's about taking advantage of others.

LuvsGurl, who until now I thought was brilliant, sounds selfish. "Everybody wants to show off." "Showing off is fine because it's what everybody does." I would agree that people tend to put themselves first. That doesn't make it right. In fact, don't you think the world would be a nicer place to live if you didn't have to put yourself first, because you didn't think that nobody else would?

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Who is to say whose definition of stupid is right?

I don't particularly care for people who have their noses or tongues pierced, kids who put huge wings and mufflers on their compact cars, or folks that smoke dope with friends after class. They are all stupid decisions that can have varying negative consequences. From missing a job opportunity, to getting harassed by the cops, to going to jail. But I'm not all down on the people that do those things. It is hugely hypocritical to say "This is OK but that isn't." When in reality the people doing those things are all just after attention. Again, just because people disagree with an action does not make it wrong.

Those who are so strongly against any public diaper exposure need to open their eyes and take a long look at the world around them. There are millions of people doing controversial things every day. Don't be so quick to judge what is acceptable and what isn't. Fixed, unalterable points of view in an ever shrinking world are one of the reasons human society is in as much trouble as it is.

This is a pretty good post and one that needs to get a lot of respect...

All of us do different things in the daily world around us and change is inevitable. I was raised by a strict disciplinary family... My Mom was very loving though to all us kids when we were in the right or just needed consoling. She always let us know when we did wrong and usually Dad's belt had a place after the fact when needed. They were great parents but both were set in their ways and it was hard to change them... My Dad was strict with us kids but also let us have rein to enjoy our lives once our family duties and chores were done. But lie or misbehave against their values and the belt came out. My Dad's only fault IMO was he never once praised us when we did great things or ever said he loved us in so many words... I have raise 5 kids changing only a few of my folks values along the way.... One of them was more hugs and the other major one was TELLING my kids I Loved them even after my belt did come out....

Now to my point, I was the incontinent one in our family till 10 and caught a little heck for it but not much except on times of frustration when I was 7 or so and put back in diapers (no spanking ever just a lot of changed bed sheets growing up) and also on trips when until I was eleven... Nothing else was done growing up.

Than after marriage and when my 5th kid was born I was in an boating accident and incontinence was an after effect that started after the2ndsurgery.

I fought hard to survive the "embarrassment and it was this group and Wetville's many members that saved my mental "LIFE". I embraced the Ab lifestyle away from the kids and AT ALL TIMES stopped being embarrassed by my incontinence both urinary and bowel.

I go around the house almost all the time if I'm not going somewhere in just my plastic pants n t-Shirt (unless the kids or wife had company over and then it was shorts too.

I barbecue outside, water the yard, or any other 1/2 hour or less job (at a time) in my diapers n T, it has been that way now for what seems forever. I live in a small area outside of a major Mt town about 10 miles and on 5 acres with a few neighbors... and they never once complained, heck most all of them speak to me once a week or so...

I don't go to town in just diapers without cover but I over the years have had many problems, leaks, back of pants slip, diapers get exposed let me tell you. Heck I coached little league and assisted with HS softball for quite a few years and let me tell you if something happens or shows up the kids don't care and most the parents understood my problems and limits....

Once I wet over a a slipped down front of a diaper and peed not knowing right down the front of my pants and my friend pointed out what was happening in front of him... heck I was dang near in tears that time and he acted like it was NO BIG deal all the way back.

Now it has been 22 years later since I was in diapers full time and not much bothers me and I think all this talk about overexposed diapers are ridicules and we are overdoing the negative attack on people who are out and about in public when somethings happens.

Heidi Lynn did so much for our community and was a fine example of an Ab in public that she took our community to greater levels. And a few others here and there will still bring us farther advanced in the scheme of the world.

I will get off the soap box now!

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LuvsGurl, who until now I thought was brilliant, sounds selfish. "Everybody wants to show off." "Showing off is fine because it's what everybody does." I would agree that people tend to put themselves first. That doesn't make it right. In fact, don't you think the world would be a nicer place to live if you didn't have to put yourself first, because you didn't think that nobody else would?

Selfish? How is a doctrine of live and let live or judge not, for ye also shall be judged selfish?

I am merely pointing out the facts of life and the way the world works. Life is far too short to go around constantly worrying about whether or not you might be doing something that some stranger doesn't like.

Our society does have its morals and norms but how many morals and norms have been challenged, altered or completely abolished over the years?

Let's see here,

* It was, at one time, acceptable for a man to own another man.

* For many decades it was thought that a woman's place was only in the home.

* There are still people who think that homosexuality is wrong, and that homosexual couples do not deserve the same rights as heterosexual couples.

* Many believe that your soul will burn in hell unless you subscribe to their particular religion. Or, worse, that you deserve to die because you believe otherwise.

I could go on.

You can be like the rest of the sheeple and conform to what ever gender or identity society expects you to have or you can dare to be different, either a little or a lot. Show people something they might not want to see, tell them something they might not want to hear, and hope that maybe it will shock them out of their little ideal world bubble.

There are tons of differing ideas, standards and ways of looking at things out there. Just because you may not agree with all of them does not make them wrong. In the free world citizens enjoy this little thing called freedom of expression, which means we can dress and act as we please within the bounds of the law. Until they pass a law criminalizing diaper exposure in public people are going to continue to do it.

I would agree that people tend to put themselves first. That doesn't make it right. In fact, don't you think the world would be a nicer place to live if you didn't have to put yourself first, because you didn't think that nobody else would?

That doesn't make it wrong either. A world where we didn't have to stand out is a fantasy, it's not real, it will never be real. The reality of the situation is what we are discussing here, correct?

The point of this entire argument is that just because you don't agree with something or are shocked or offended by it doesn't mean that it is wrong. In our society people have the freedom to do things that might step on somebody's toes, look at politics for crying out loud. Left and Right are merely different points of view, and both are considered valid by the people that support them. What this world needs is more acceptance of differing points of view. There are some 7 billion of us occupying this tiny blue dot orbiting a star in an otherwise unexceptional part of a single average galaxy. The life of the common human is so insignificant on the grand scale that it doesn't even begin to register. Yet you are giving someone hell because you think that something so trivial as going out and displaying a bit of undergarment for fun is wrong.

Selfish? Looked in a mirror lately?

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Quoted for emphasis. Thank you.

According to the United States, one's disturbance is INDEED a public disturbance. That is why we have laws protecting the public from 'Crazy diaper wearers' that look to disturb the public. Bluntly flashing a diaper is a crime, it has been reported many many times and numerous people have been fined for it. Please check your facts and then get back to me if you choose to do so, thanks ;).

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Flashing a diaper in and of itself is not a crime. My GF and I have been discussing this for a while in regards to wearing at the beach.

As she has no shame, she specifically asked an LAPD officer what his take was. He said that it all comes down to "intent to arouse." If you're doing it to arouse yourself or others, its indecent exposure. The problem comes with interpreting intent, which usually comes down to a judgement call. Get a cool cop and you're fine, otherwise you could have problems.

The ladies have it a little easier 'cause their arousal isn't quite as obvious.

Tread lightly and be careful. Oh, and the above is only applicable in the State of California. And maybe not even there.

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Flashing a diaper in and of itself is not a crime. My GF and I have been discussing this for a while in regards to wearing at the beach.

As she has no shame, she specifically asked an LAPD officer what his take was. He said that it all comes down to "intent to arouse." If you're doing it to arouse yourself or others, its indecent exposure. The problem comes with interpreting intent, which usually comes down to a judgement call. Get a cool cop and you're fine, otherwise you could have problems.The ladies have it a little easier 'cause their arousal isn't quite as obvious.

Tread lightly and be careful. Oh, and the above is only applicable in the State of California. And maybe not even there.

Yes that's right: cops do NOT take sexual 'diaper' displays lightly. Just like someone would get reported for running around on the streets with a thong, someone will be reported for running around on the streets in a diaper. Again, it's a disturbance to the public and is criminal.

Selfish? How is a doctrine of live and let live or judge not, for ye also shall be judged selfish?

I am merely pointing out the facts of life and the way the world works. Life is far too short to go around constantly worrying about whether or not you might be doing something that some stranger doesn't like.

Our society does have its morals and norms but how many morals and norms have been challenged, altered or completely abolished over the years?

Let's see here,

* It was, at one time, acceptable for a man to own another man.

* For many decades it was thought that a woman's place was only in the home.

* There are still people who think that homosexuality is wrong, and that homosexual couples do not deserve the same rights as heterosexual couples.

* Many believe that your soul will burn in hell unless you subscribe to their particular religion. Or, worse, that you deserve to die because you believe otherwise.

I could go on.

You can be like the rest of the sheeple and conform to what ever gender or identity society expects you to have or you can dare to be different, either a little or a lot. Show people something they might not want to see, tell them something they might not want to hear, and hope that maybe it will shock them out of their little ideal world bubble.

There are tons of differing ideas, standards and ways of looking at things out there. Just because you may not agree with all of them does not make them wrong. In the free world citizens enjoy this little thing called freedom of expression, which means we can dress and act as we please within the bounds of the law. Until they pass a law criminalizing diaper exposure in public people are going to continue to do it.

That doesn't make it wrong either. A world where we didn't have to stand out is a fantasy, it's not real, it will never be real. The reality of the situation is what we are discussing here, correct?

The point of this entire argument is that just because you don't agree with something or are shocked or offended by it doesn't mean that it is wrong. In our society people have the freedom to do things that might step on somebody's toes, look at politics for crying out loud. Left and Right are merely different points of view, and both are considered valid by the people that support them. What this world needs is more acceptance of differing points of view. There are some 7 billion of us occupying this tiny blue dot orbiting a star in an otherwise unexceptional part of a single average galaxy. The life of the common human is so insignificant on the grand scale that it doesn't even begin to register. Yet you are giving someone hell because you think that something so trivial as going out and displaying a bit of undergarment for fun is wrong.

Selfish? Looked in a mirror lately?

Selfish? How is a doctrine of live and let live or judge not, for ye also shall be judged selfish? Unfortunately, this motto is still subject to law.

I am merely pointing out the facts of life and the way the world works. Life is far too short to go around constantly worrying about whether or not you might be doing something that some stranger doesn't like.

No, you're not pointing out the 'facts of life and the way the world works' because you are forgetting that 'the way the world works' is subject to law... not 'anarchist society' of doing whatever one wants to do.

Our society does have its morals and norms but how many morals and norms have been challenged, altered or completely abolished over the years?

Let's see here,

* For many decades it was thought that a woman's place was only in the home.

Still hasn't changed-- this depends on where one lives and their culture-- not 100% everyone's beliefs.

* There are still people who think that homosexuality is wrong, and that homosexual couples do not deserve the same rights as heterosexual couples.

Still hasn't changed.

* Many believe that your soul will burn in hell unless you subscribe to their particular religion. Or, worse, that you deserve to die because you believe otherwise. Still hasn't changed.

Show people something they might not want to see, tell them something they might not want to hear, and hope that maybe it will shock them out of their little ideal world bubble

Not only would that shock people, but it could very well land that person in jail or with some mighty fines to pay.

There are tons of differing ideas, standards and ways of looking at things out there. Just because you may not agree with all of them does not make them wrong.

Do these 'standards' that you speak of follow the law? In the free world citizens enjoy this little thing called freedom of expression, which means we can dress and act as we please

Free world? Do you mean country? If so, then yes, but it must be within the law and at times (like this) 'freedoms of expression' are against law.

>>>>>Noted Bias<<<<<

What is the point of life if everything interesting or exciting has to be done behind closed doors for fear of stepping on someone's toes?

In our society people have the freedom to do things that might step on somebody's toes.

I’m glad you finally acknowledge the freedoms that are a privilege to us and are IN this society!

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