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Any thoughts on the new backscatter x-ray scanners at some airports? Those are the ones that can "see" through clothing.

I'm wondering how they will be with diapers. From what I've read, they will be able to tell you are wearing an adult diaper and in fact, that is something they are looking for. Not only that, if you choose not to go through the scanner, they will be giving you a much more hands-on "grope style" pat down which would detect the "bulk" of a diaper.

At this point I'm really just wondering how things go. I think I'll be ok but I'm not going to chance wearing cloth or a thick adult diaper through security. What I've done in the past is wear a Tranquility pull-on with a baby diaper insert to the airport, throw away the insert just before security, go through the check point and then change into a real diaper near the gate. I figure that the pull-on would seem more like normal underwear than a bulky diaper. But then again, I've never when through one of those scanners nor have I had a serious pat-down search.

Not that there is anything anyone could do if you are singled out for a full search. Do you think the TSA would want to verify my medical condition with my doctor? I did have my carry-on checked in Denver last year. They pulled everything out in the open including the 3 real adult diapers I carried. The guy just looked at me, I shrugged, he just continued and that was it.

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I said once that it's getting to the point that we all will be required to wear diapers on airlines.

That way, we stay seated, and if just one person goes to the lavatory, they will be suspect.

I could see it now as for "medical consent"...

Well lady your child is 4 years old.

He/she should be potty trained by now.

Do you have a doctors waiver consenting a medical need?

This is why I hate flying now.

I DO make it a practice to wear a diaper when traveling.

Since there are sometimes lines that I cannot wait for.

I'm at the age where I don't care what a stranger knows anymore.

Possibly I would tell the screener, nope no med condition.

I just REALLY LIKE WEARING DIAPERS.

As far as I know that's still not against the law.

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Honesty is the best policy.

Whether you are incontinent or not telling the TSA agent that you are wearing a diaper

to prevent accidents is the truth. With modern medical drugs adverse side actions are

always a possibility. If necessary a pat down or disrobing in a security booth can be

done discretely without any fanfare or undue commotion. Just go along with the inspection

program and neither you or the TSA agent will be worst for the wear. I am sure they are

fully briefed (pun LOL) on adults wearing diapers and some of the reasons for that.

Just be careful that you don't have something else in your carry on baggage that can

be mixed in your diaper that will raise an alarm or further embarassing interogation.

Items such as baby powder or baby oil might just be the trigger leave these in your

checked baggage or be prepared to happily surrender them at the security point to calm

any adverse reactions.

Regarding the new "Back Scatter" machines expect some sort of further inspection.

You are not going to fit the normal profile.

Be nice and polite - they have a not so nice job to do - make it easier for the both of you.

Babylock

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When my SO and I went to Florida last winter it was just after the attempted underwear bomber and I was worried about the upgraded security checks. Being incontinent I went to my Dr. to get a letter about medical need just in case but it wasn't needed. The security people were really discreet and once they saw the diapers in my carry on they just let me go through. It wasn't nearly as big a deal as I thought it would be.

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Any thoughts on the new backscatter x-ray scanners at some airports? ....

These machines are an expensive over-reaction to a real but small problem :o

As to the diapers, I haven't flown in ages :huh: I prefer not to fly on airlines or ride buses unless it's absolutely necessary B) And I wear 24/7 so if I were to approach the scanner or TSA people, I'd just quietly say "Medically Incontinent" and let whatever happens happen. Being that I said it's a medical condition they would understand their own liability if they handled it wrong, and since the scanners see and see through everything they wouldn't really need to do anything further so they probably wouldn't ;) I would avoid wearing metal diaper pins so cloth would be out, but otherwise I'd wear what I felt I needed to for my own good ^_^ If a TSA person hasn't seen an adult in diapers yet they soon will- there's more of us out there than most people realize :fish_h4h: It's just life, no need to get nervous over that :angel_not: And if you're the first, then you'll do good by educating them :thumbsup:

Bettypooh

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Once they see you have more diapers, The likely you posing as a treat is way decreased. Someone that is smugling something in a diaper most likely won't be carrying spares. Lol

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Depending on how intelligent the overall view of TSA is at the moment you go through security will depend on if they are thinking that extras equate to legitimacy. History tells us that people who intended "bad" things during air travel didn't take luggage because they weren't coming back. As that became a red flag, the crazies altered their thinking and started to bring suitcases. The terrorists continue to reinvent themselves to skirt realistic thinking.

Extra diapers may work now and not next time. No guarantees.

My wife was made to throw away things like a used lipstick and mascara applicator and some other small cosmetic items because some stupid TSA employee was flexing her "authority arm". It was all totally unnecessay and cost her plenty to replace it all. At that moment, our choices were miss the flight or trash it. We were pretty pissed off but fair warning, IT'S THEIR GAME - NOT YOURS!

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Depending on how intelligent the overall view of TSA is at the moment you go through security will depend on if they are thinking that extras equate to legitimacy. History tells us that people who intended "bad" things during air travel didn't take luggage because they weren't coming back. As that became a red flag, the crazies altered their thinking and started to bring suitcases. The terrorists continue to reinvent themselves to skirt realistic thinking.

Extra diapers may work now and not next time. No guarantees.

My wife was made to throw away things like a used lipstick and mascara applicator and some other small cosmetic items because some stupid TSA employee was flexing her "authority arm". It was all totally unnecessay and cost her plenty to replace it all. At that moment, our choices were miss the flight or trash it. We were pretty pissed off but fair warning, IT'S THEIR GAME - NOT YOURS!

True. Guess it's just you gotta be there at the right time. But I guess that can be good, to stop people from predicting what they can get away with.

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You do not owe TSA any explanation about diapers - if they notice them - say nothing about them. You should not subject your self to the body scan - it is a ridiculous invasion of your privacy for no gain in safety. Also, we have already seen that the government saved images from scanners at courthouses - what makes you think the TSA is not doing it? If we all choose the patdown, they will have to do away with this paranoid measure altogether since there would be no way to do thousands of 3 minute pat downs per day. Resist!

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Really, what's the big deal? You don't HAVE to go through the scanner, you have a choice so if you don't like it, it's the same procedure as before, just getting a pat down now. Who cares if they notice you're diaper, A LOT of people wear them, A LOT. Especially protective underwear. If by chance you're asked by some nosey TSA, tell them it's for personal reasons, it's really not their business. It'd be like them asking why you're wearing boxers not briefs or why would you bring that ugly sweater.

TSA and all the rules suck, yes, we all know that but so does driving in rush hour traffic. If we took away all that TSA does, I honestly don't think it'd benefit us all as we may not like the inconvenience it may cause, but it really is to our benefit. Our airplanes have been used as weapons killing thousands in the past. If history is suppost to teach us lessons, then we shouldn't turn a blind eye to what has happened and somewhat try to prevent it from happening again. Nothings fool proof though. There'll always be leaks in any system. There are problems with viruses on computers so we buy anti-virus software not just once, but continue to update it at an expense and it's inconvenient but you almost have to if you own a pc and want to use it.

Anyway, just my two cents.

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I'm at the age where I don't care what a stranger knows anymore.

With me i will be carrying my medications my TENS unit and my Cpap along with my carry on bag.

Medical equipment is not counted as carry on so i carry that in my separate Cpap bag so i can carry everything else like diapers in my carry on bag. the airlines also can not charge bag fees for medical equipment.

With me once they see the medical equipment they will not question the diapers.

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My carry-on luggage is a laptop, two spare diapers and a pack of travel baby wipes. I am ALWAYS diapered, and when stopped by security, I requested a private room it they wish to 'pat me down' etc. When I was asked why, I simply stated that to answer that question was an infringment on my personal rights, and either they provide same, or let me go. They got really nasty, but still provided a private room to 'pat me down' and requested me to strip. I started to strip, but before I even got my shirt off, one of the managers rushed in, and apologized to me.They had found the spare diapers in my carry-on.

FYI, if you have a medical condition, OR you chose to wear diapers, there is NO LAW anywhere in the world that forces you to disclose that information. You have the freedom to wear what ever you wish in clothing.

It really depends on the security persons mood and attidude what level of hassle you get at security. Security are trying to prevent someone entering an aircraft that has the intention of using same as a weapon etc. In reality, this is a futile effort. Most military trained personal can hijack an aircraft using only their hands/body as the weapon. If one wishes to explode a aircraft, all it would take is a number of people, wearing cheap wrist watches packed with explosive to combine their efforts. The extra security being enforced is, in my opinion, a waste of both money and time. Yes, I do sympatise with the victims of Sept 11th, but NOTHING has been done, to date, that would prevent a similar event.

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I have no issue with security measure that work - but these do not - they are invasive and without security benefit. This is why they should be resisted - it is dangerous to believe that adopting these measures make us safer.

Really, what's the big deal? You don't HAVE to go through the scanner, you have a choice so if you don't like it, it's the same procedure as before, just getting a pat down now. Who cares if they notice you're diaper, A LOT of people wear them, A LOT. Especially protective underwear. If by chance you're asked by some nosey TSA, tell them it's for personal reasons, it's really not their business. It'd be like them asking why you're wearing boxers not briefs or why would you bring that ugly sweater.

TSA and all the rules suck, yes, we all know that but so does driving in rush hour traffic. If we took away all that TSA does, I honestly don't think it'd benefit us all as we may not like the inconvenience it may cause, but it really is to our benefit. Our airplanes have been used as weapons killing thousands in the past. If history is suppost to teach us lessons, then we shouldn't turn a blind eye to what has happened and somewhat try to prevent it from happening again. Nothings fool proof though. There'll always be leaks in any system. There are problems with viruses on computers so we buy anti-virus software not just once, but continue to update it at an expense and it's inconvenient but you almost have to if you own a pc and want to use it.

Anyway, just my two cents.

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So, do we have reports of people actually going through the body scanners while wearing?

I went scouring the forums and the only case I can find is this post, and the result was being called out for a pat down. Just wondering if thats the norm. If so, then that security sucks as the diaper could have anything in it (in terms of powders and liquids), but the only alternative would be to take you to a room and make you change into a new one, which would be also be ridiculous.

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As I stated in the other thread, I'm going to wear diapers and opt-out of the scan the next time I go flying. I eagerly look forward to the look on the face of whoever is patting me down when they notice that I'm wearing too. But, I'm a wild pervert with no medical problems, so it's really no sacrifice for me.

But, from a less self-centered/perverted view, I think people should opt out anyway. I really don't feel that it's safe to be scanned by one of those things, the radiation output has been lied about numerous times and I sincerely doubt that they are a safe thing to subject yourself to regularly. Privacy be damned, I don't want to get cancer as a result of getting shot with that thing a thousand times over the course of my lifetime.

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I went thru the machine about 2 months ago at BWI. Basically their images from what i could see are black and white and they are looking for larger dark areas that shouldn't be there on normal people. Unfortunately I am guessing a wet abena shows up as a fairly dark spot on their system. after exiting the machine they proceeded to do the normal pat down, said i was clean, and let me move on.

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I recently went through an airport scanner with no problem. In addition to the disposable diaper (for all the obvious reasons, I would ONLY recommend wearing a disposable diaper (no pins) while flying). I was wearing, I was also wearing a TENS unit, and a back brace. Before I entered the scanning machine, I told the security person standing in front of me that I was going to set off the alarm upon entry. I know different airports use different types of machines, so I don't know if the machine being used that I entered was the X-Ray type of machine or not. I just know when I entered the machine it set if off the alarm.

For anyone that does not know what A TENS unit is, it is a small electronic box that send electric pluses using 4 electrode wires. Each of the four wires known as electrodes extend from the small box that fits into your pocket with the wires extending to four different places on your back. Anyone that has severe back pain probably uses a TENS unit as it does provides some relief to the user.

If the machine that entered was the X-Ray type, (maybe all airports use these type of machines now and I just don't know it) I'm sure my image must have looked very different compared to others as I was wearing a TENS unit which is made with metal, plastic, and wire; the back brace which also contains some metal for added suport; and the disposable diaper probably shows plastic and bulk (diaper stuffing) in an image. I don't recall if I was wet at the time, or not, but even if I was a little wet, I don't know, nor do I care if someone sitting behind a computer monitor some place could see that I was wearing a diaper and it was wet. The security person asked me to step to the aside where I was escorted to an area that was semi private. There were two security people present, and one asked me to either lift up, or remove my shirt so they could see the back brace and TENS unit I had told them I was wearing. I proceeded to lift up my shirt thus exposing my back brace and the four wires extending from my right front pants pocket where the TENS unit was located so I removed the TENS unit from my pocket while holding up my shirt with the other hand. They used their wand and looked closely at the TENS unit (small box), and felt around the back brace. They also did a pat down but never said anything about the diaper if they even knew I was wearing one. Other than lifting up my shirt, and removing my shoes, I was never asked to remove an other items such as my pants that would have exposed the diaper I was wearing. Even if I would have been asked to remove my pants, I might have been some what embarrassed because like I said, it would have exposesd the diaper I was weraing but I've been incontinent for over 20 years, I don't get embarrased about this sort of thing much any more. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying,... I DON'T advertise that I wear diapers, and I am very discrete about wearing them, but I was on my way to a regional spinal cord medical center where I would be in the hospital for 10 days and the nursing staff would be changing my diapers while I remained in the hospital. One thing I've learned over the years is wearing a diaper is no big deal to any of the medical professionals I've had contact with over the years. Medical peole see incontinent people all the time, some medical people like those that work with urology patients all the time probably see people wearing diapers quite frequently so this is nothing new and probably pretty common in their line of work.

My point is,....."professional people" are professional at their job, (at least most of them are), and that includes airport security people. They don't under go the years of study required to become a medical doctor, or nurse, but none the less, their job as a security professional requires a certain degree of professionlism. So,....even if these people see that I'm wearing a diaper when I enter one of these machines at the airport,.... so what...it doesn't bother me that they know I'm wearing a diaper. The ONLY thing that would bother me would be to see pictures of myself on the Internet that came from an airport secruity imaging scanner the day following my travel. This of course would not be a good situation, but looking forward this sort of thing becomes a lawsuit and who knows, maybe I would be well compensated for the wrong doing of others that are less than professional in thier job.

There are many that feel airport security has become more intrusive than it needs to be. So,..... the question is,..... "How safe do we as a society want to be? Even if "we" as a society don't mine the risk of death, or permanent injury to yourself, friends, family members, or others, then we should remove all the airport security procedures that are currently in place. But if the consensus of the "experts" are to have the level of security that we now have, or maybe even increase the level of security if required for the safety of all,..... then we need to understand as travelers we are are going to be inconvenienced and asked to endure certain types of security scanning that will most likely be intrusive to many if we are to proceed with all reasonable flight security procedures. If for whatever reason, your not in agreement with these security procedures, you may want to consider taking some other form of transportation.

Just my thoughts on the topic

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I am revising my remarks.

Everyone should be afraid!

This guy had bladder cancer!

http://www.foxnews.c...-covered-urine/

Now tell me, how is that "hope and change" working out for you?

As I have said all along giving the government power is stupid. And if this poster will take a conservative moment to remember; it was your friend Bush who implemented the TSA :o RDB, if you'll run forward as fast as you can you might catch up with my thinking someday ;) I saw all this coming ten years ago. You're not going to like the next ten at all, nor will I. Until the people involve themselves enmasse in running their lives, someone else is going to screw them.

Today is "Don't touch my junk" day Are you ready people? Will you laugh as they can't figure out how to control you without getting the crap beat out of them? Will you smile as you destroy their world and take it back for yourself? If I had the money to pay for a lovely little supreme court lawsuit I'd be flying today ;) I'd be in diapers and they'd be in hot water :lol:

Bettypooh

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As I stated in the other thread, I'm going to wear diapers and opt-out of the scan the next time I go flying. I eagerly look forward to the look on the face of whoever is patting me down when they notice that I'm wearing too. But, I'm a wild pervert with no medical problems, so it's really no sacrifice for me.

But, from a less self-centered/perverted view, I think people should opt out anyway. I really don't feel that it's safe to be scanned by one of those things, the radiation output has been lied about numerous times and I sincerely doubt that they are a safe thing to subject yourself to regularly. Privacy be damned, I don't want to get cancer as a result of getting shot with that thing a thousand times over the course of my lifetime.

That is exactly what i was thinking when i first saw these things. Everyone was talking about privacy and crap like THAT was the big deal. The whole time I was thinking forget about f'ing privacy what about the radiation you're gonna get shot with?! Convenient they don't tell you about that huh? If they give you the option to opt out what is the point anyway then?

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