I did, I felt close to it with a catheter; this however is definitely different. The stress incontinence side is the most difficult to adapt to though. Especially considering that I started this at the end of a nasty cold so I was coughing every 10 or so minutes. I've got the next version in which is closer to someone else design; basically 20fr silicon cath with two inserts to force the bends then the end rolled over with a retrieval string. So far so good.