Thank you so much Betty and Kevin. I was really starting to lose any hope about this and had no idea where to turn. I was talking to my girlfriend about your posts and she said they both sounded like great ideas. What really kills me the most about all of this is my girlfriend had to come along with the ride for me, and as time went on it became more apparent it affected her and not only me. This was a big part of me becoming unhappy with incontinence. I was starting to feel guilty about it.