Zero_Escape

It's interesting you mention this - I downloaded the full 3 abdl set and the "freely to wet" is a good one. I havent given it enough time yet but I'm fairly along with untraining and seen results from sheer willpower alone. Hypnosis is mainly extra reinforcement for my subconscious. Since you mentioned alittlehypnosis, the subforum this is posted in and you said we could ask questions, I have some: On their site it says actual incontinence can be achieved through hypnosis but have to have a medical professional sign off on it before they do those type of permanent-results sessions. My question(s) are: Did you use the "Freely to Wet" prerecorded session and needed a more personalized approach? Were you not seeing results from this file(if this is even what you started with?) and ordered a custom file? Lastly, if you mind me asking, what is your one on one sessions about (permanent incontinence...acceptance..etc?) that you're doing/recommending now? If it is a permanent change(s) you want the sessions to be about, is Jayson strict on a reference from a medical professional or can you sign a digital waiver of sorts if you want to take it further than the "Freely to Wet" file? I've been very intrigued about finding this site and love his voice so any information you can share from your gathered experience with him would be truly appreciated. Thanks

@~Brian~ - Good take on stress management! I love reading your sagely advice and I mean every word of it. This will be lengthy so you've been warned Coming from a millenial's perspective (yes I know how to drive a stick shift and still drive a 2004 accent w/manual trans - lol) and a lone wolf - when I was in HS I wasn't necessarily an attention seeker as I rarely spoke to anyone as I only had a select few friends. I made straight A's and college bound and my parents valued education above all else. The whole clichè parents' take on life - get good grades, graduate, good job and your life will be set. I joined some clubs to get involved as to look good on my college application..blah blah. I didn't really enjoy it at all - I wore a happy mask but I did my duties to the best of my ability to get the job(s) done. I dressed how I wanted (Jnco skater jeans were in) and didn't give a flying f*** about what anyone else thought. Again, I made the grades so parents didn't care. I still dress somewhat the same even though the style is out but again I could care less what other's think. Through all this and since I was 7 y/o I had always loved diapers. The short story is that I'm aware our fascination with them never really goes away. I didn't buy my first pack of plastic backed diapers until I was 16 when I got my license. My mom found them in my trunk one day and I told her I was having some bedwetting issues. She took me to a uro and they actually said I had a small bladder lol. Anywho nothing came of that (no uti etc) and now that I'm all grown up(?) I can wear whenever I want. This might be TMI but I am a virgin and live alone - on the asexual side as I never got any pleasure or worthwhile experiences in intimate relationships. In a way I don't like the idea of premarital sex and potentially being stuck with paying child support. I simply said nah...not for me. Move on guys and gals - not interested. I learned after I left HS - all the BS and clowns that tried to make life difficult then; well you'll never see them again and frankly I could have cared less. A whole new chapter begins, right? I met a lot of cool people after graduation and took a few trips here and there. I stayed in touch with a great deal of people but in my personal experience, nothing really ever lasts. Even my comrade in arms who I still think of as a brother had moved away so we mainly talk via messaging apps. As I will outline below - this is my take on what makes me happy. You mention a lot about stressors etc. A lot of it is tied to obligations to other people and actually giving a s*** about their opinions. I am a lone wolf for a reason and nobody knows the REAL me IRL. I'm the guy that will gladly help you out but as long as they respect my space and mind their own business - if this makes sense. So living my life this way - I can walk around in just a shirt & diaper inside my place, workout in a tank top and diaper (i have my own personal gym!), have a toddler-sized bed (I'm very slim and boyish figure)...etc etc and I don't owe a damned explanation to anyone. I don't care what other's think if they found diapers..etc if I have them over. My mom knows so she minds her business. At work I've met a lot of great clients and love helping them out even off the clock. They hold me in very high regards and I've been in the veterinary field close to two decades now - but I don't extend that "hit me up again anytime" deal I guess I give that vibe and I am happy I do. I also don't do any extracurricular activities, etc because; again I don't want any obligations on top of the stresses I already deal with at work. The work I do for pets and their owners speaks for itself and I go above and beyond so I see no reason to prove myself to anyone. TBH - People usually only text or msg me about their pets and if I have an opening on my schedule to see them or that their dog at so and so...etc. Never a "hey how are you?". When it boils down to it - people really only give a damn about themselves. What I'm getting at is by living a solitude life and doing what I want when I want with no ties to anyone/obligations etc I am a much happier person with as few associates as possible holding me back (marriage...group meets...expectations...etc). Even when my mom asks when will I find companionship, I simply tell her "I will when I meet someone who isnt toxic and has similar interests". She stopped asking long ago lol. I guess I really didn't offer any advice per se but just thought to give you my take on my philosophy and way of life(?). Like you said above - just focus on YOU. Don't worry about other's petty issues...that's their business and they'll figure it out. I pay my bills on time, pay my taxes, stay out of trouble and hardly get any spam emails, texts, calls, etc because I only do the bare minimum in the adult world of things...then when those responsibilities are done I have all the playtime to myself with nobody to get in my way or tell me what to do. Sure it can get lonely but I like it that way and there's always something to do without needing to satisfy anyone else's needs because...well I live alone and wouldn't have it any other way. I look forward to reading your posts and always like your thoughts on things. Keep pampered! ❤ #singlelife #ftw

@Enthusi - I PM'd you with a sample of my work. Let me know if I can be of assistance.

@Enthusi - I've been lurking the inc desires forum for quite awhile and been following you behind the scenes so to speak. It's always a pleasure to see new methods/ideas crop up. I want to throw it out there and say that I am in fact a certified proofreader and copywriter (I am called a grammar nazi in fact) and would be delighted to give your article a whirl. Free of charge - no strings attached. TBH I enjoy proofreading and I usually leave the copywriting aspect to a minimum as to not change the author's main ideas - if that makes sense. I usually do grammatical "rewording" if the sentence/statement in question is a little confusing or too abstract for a general audience. This is just an offer of my services to you as an act of repaying for your sagely advice - not to mention I am a huge fan. You can reply here or PM me if interested. I hope you have a great weekend!

Great post! On the lines of hypnosis - what files have you used? The Babypants Bedwetting file is good and helps me wind down after a long day and extremely effective in telling your mind it's ok to let bedwetting happen. For daytime I use Mindmaster's Bladder Retraining and find it effective. What about you? Let us know the files you use...I want to know especially for your daytime training. Thanks

I can help you out. PM me for more details.

@babykeiff Maybe I'm missing something here but what about actual muscle atrophy (which you've mentioned in several of your posts in the past from disuse of a muscle) that comes from wearing and using diapers exclusively for a LOOOONG time? There are even those that have done this (without prior incontinence issues) and say they physically can NOT use the muscle(s) anymore to stop the flow due to disuse/atrophy. Please tell me where muscle atrophy would come into play with the above statements and what you've posted in the past about any muscle unused becomes useless. Thank you so much for your expertise and medical knowledge!

Well I've worn for a long time and notice less erections as well but the testes still build up seminal fluid and a balloon eventually gets annoying and firm...depends on age. ^^ However, I've heard even with guys in their 30's (me) can have a hard time with erections after keeping the testicles in a diaper (esp plastic backed - there is research on this; if interested ask Dr. Google) for a long time (aka...24/7 wearers). It's important to "air out" down there once in awhile or wear just your diaper and a tshirt/tank top before bed.

TBH, this is a very good question and I've heard many different things. Anatomically, weak pelvic floor muscles (aka product of diaper training) = weak/premature ejaculation. I am a walking example of this because I notice when I don't do the deed once in awhile my balls will ache ("blue balls") and won't subside until I do. I release a lot sooner and my muscles do ache (from weakening them?) but haven't noticed much change. The author of the 12 month diaper training guide says to do it each night before bed to help mitigate nocturnal erections. It helps me sleep for sure but still don't like doing it. I hate getting off but it's the only thing that helps relieve the aches. I try to ejac ASAP so as to not strengthen any muscles more than they should, just to be safe. Bottom Line: I think as long as you're staying relaxed letting the muscles weaken by letting go as soon as the urge hits, the muscles that you use to climax/ejaculate for that short period of time won't be enough to really set diaper training back by much. Just my 2 cents.

@Constantlywet Did you ever have a checks and balances system or at least a journal/calendar of sorts? I know after a certain time wearing 24/7 (like a year+), a journal would be redundant but hearing/reading about those breakthrough milestones in unpotty training is definitely motivational & inspiring! I assume after about the 1 year mark, a good majority of the changes have happened and it's a matter of muscle control and atrophy kicking in from there. BTW congratulations and glad you're happy.

You should go back and edit using proper sentence syntax. I'm a grammar nazi and will always correct people - I apologize and it's who I am. Love me or hate me. Anywho, startbedwetting.com; if you read what little content the site has claims to respond within a few hours 24/7. They (or he) shouldn't state this if they are expecting to receive monetary compensation, especially of the amount of money they want regardless of the weekly trial. This applies for any business and can affect their credibility. Not ideal for attracting prospective clients. Just my two cents. ?

Startbedwetting.com has not responded to the last 2 inquires I've sent so I gave up with them. I'll just keep at it like I'm doing. It's going to take forever but will be worth it.

@babykeiff Thank you so much for your input! You're one of the only members on the IC Desires forum that I actually love hearing from and read all your replies intensively, hanging onto every word. As for your responses and from what I've gathered, let me get this straight (summarize what is normal and what to do continuing forward/expect; I apologize for any run-ons as I am ADD): So the pains I'm experiencing in my urethra are completely normal (i do understand they are tied to the sphincter/muscle control network) and are signs of my nervous/neural network making new connections (?) thus making me sensitive to voiding and weakening my sphincter tone? Then what you're saying or what I should expect is over time (weeks/months?) is the urethral pains will subside as my subconscious/brain gets used to just voiding at the slightest urge? I know about Pavlov's experiment(s) with the dogs being conditioned to salivating at just the stimuli of a red light as I had taken Psych 101 in undergrad so no worries there. So if I understand you correctly and from what you said, is it's most important behavioral wise about conditioning the body from here on out is that it's best for me to focus more on letting go when the urge happens rather than post micturition reverse kegaling? So even though my muscles will instinctively clench (time undeterminate) after I let go, you're saying that over time my sphincters will naturally start to unclench more and more without putting in conscious effort to relax after the wetting? I do find myself putting a good deal into mental reminders throughout the day to relax down there even though the urge hasn't hit me yet. I know this was a novel to write out but I respect and value your opinion(s) as gold and want your take on it. Please see my responses as clarification and I apologize if anything I've said in this post seems redundant but I want to make sure I've got it all clear and know I'm doing this right and seeing results. Thanks @babykeiff!! I hope to hear from you soon! ?

I'm getting peeved by posters not answering the original question(s) so pardon my use of big words but I will keep this as composed as I possibly can. First off you didn't answer any of my questions above. Second, I've never seen a more broken run-on sentence in my life (SAP is transdermal now? ?). Third, everyone's physiological makeup and adaptation is different from one to the next (ie one subject's muscles might waste away [atrophy] faster under the same controlled environment than another) which there are countless studies that have irrefutable evidence. I need to know if anyone has had the similar symptoms I'm having above during their diaper training, not an "oh that's not enough time to see a difference" which I'm well aware of being a man of science with a medical background. The take home message is my symptoms are real and that's the facts. I'm just looking for closure to make sure I'm on the right track and to be expected.

Interesting question but I would have to say yeah a little bit like a squeezing dull pain halfway down my penis inside urethra despite keeping the whole network relaxed down there. Glad to see you're making some progress! I also will gush a good bit when standing but most will dribble while sitting playing a game or doing work on the pc etc etc. Didn't answer my question but nonetheless thanks for the post! Thanks for the "how to" but I'm all too familiar with the method(s) on diaper/unpotty training and the psychological changes that need to be made for the physiological ones to happen. Thanks for the post but again, it didn't even come close to answering my question. ?