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Greetings all (from a long-time lurker) Now that this particular forum is here, and I've been thinking about what it's all about, I need to ask: What is the difference between voluntary incontinence and completely losing potty-training? I ask because I've been attempting to design a hypno tape for myself and keep running into the difference between "I can't hold it" and "I don't want to hold it" Without being a mind reader, and not remembering my own experiences from that time, I have no way of knowing what a 2 1/2 year old thinks when he wets, or if he thinks about it at all: all I know about is the end product -- a wet diaper. Given that the end goal for my tape is the wet diaper, I kind of need to know. Unfortunately, since I'm a bit of a logic bug, I keep seeing inconsistencies in what I'm writing and I can't even think about trying to internalize it in that state. My only point of reference was a time I pooped my pants when I was four-ish -- I remember thinking there was a monster in the bathroom that was so evil I wanted to go home, but didn't make it. That was a case of "I can't stop it", but was also after (supposedly) I was potty trained. I want to go further back than that, to somewhere between "I did something in my diaper?" and "You mean I'm not supposed to do that in my diaper?" Thoughts appreciated. -whoops