BitterGrey

Has anyone had general success with home IPL or laser hair removal kits in the diaper area? As part of updating an article on diaper area hair removal*, I tried out a Braun silk expert pro 5. Technically, it is an IPL - an intense non-laser pulse of light- device. It seems to work OK for general body hair, but results in the diaper area are uncertain at best. (To avoid ambiguity, I've been shaving per the instructions, but only using the device on one side. Given the weekly shaving, it would be difficult to see marginal reductions. The other side provides a control for the experiment.) BTW the Braun unit was selected because it was available locally and used AC power. A home laser unit might be more effective, but might suffer the same limitations as the Braun. Specifically, the need to moderate power for home use, the need to reduce power further on the darker skin around the scrotum, etc. * - https://understanding.infantilism.org/diaper_area_hair_removal.php

Great wingfolds! Any particular tricks to sealing the liner to the backsheet without a stiff glue edge or a risk of it coming apart, especially around the legs?

I've been slowly gathering an archive of papers from early on in the community, currently a couple boxes. It is mostly catalogs, DPF newsletters, stories, etc. To free up some space, I might scan them into pdfs. (Yes, this will mean a lot of DPF PDFs.) I've been building an index, but haven't converted it to html yet. Posting the full archive online isn't an option, at least for now. It includes a couple years of DPF newsletters that contain a lot of personal information. Granted, all of it is 20 years old or older, but this might not be enough to eliminate to privacy concerns. Copyrights might also be a concern. The scans might only be shared confidentially with other researchers and ABDL history buffs. Would anyone know of other archives of community papers? If a particular item has already been scanned, we might not need to scan it again. (There is a collection of 70s and 80s Magazine Articles About ABDL/Infantilism at archive.org that is very well-presented. However, it includes only covers and specific articles. These scans might be more cover-to-cover, except for rosters.) Take care, Grey https://understanding.infantilism.org/

Regrettably, A. R. passed away recently due to complications from major surgery. He might not be as famous as some others discussed here. However, I believe he deserves to be remembered, and that posting this might give closure to his many friends on DailyDiapers. I knew A.R. as a semi-regular at the monthly ABDL pizza munch near San Jose, CA. He came for the conversation, even though pizza didn't agree with his digestive tract. (We knew each other mainly face-to-face and over email. As a result, I'm not sure what nickname he used on DailyDiapers.) A. R. was an adult baby who mixed in light bondage to try to simulate a baby's loss of autonomy. Originally from the New York area, he relocated to California partially to join the growing AB/DL community here. He was a longtime member of DPF, including attending some of Tommy's now-legendary parties. He was a great initial resource for me while trying to learn more about that chapter of the history of our community, and capture it for future generations. At my urging, he wrote a brief autobiography, linked below. A. R. was also a retired contractor who enjoyed home upgrades, travel, and a form of lawn bowling. I'll miss him. A. R.'s bio: https://understanding.infantilism.org/archive/ar_life_experiences.php BRiDgE's (The Bay area Diaper Enthusiasts) Discord server: https://discord.gg/4htyqNe8xk

Hello. Sorry that there isn't more face-to-face events going on in the bay area these days.

Interesting. Is it possible that this is due to a shift in observations? If some wettings were more conscious than others, and the amount of conscious intervention required decreased with practice, then we might expect some wettings to go unnoticed. It would be reasonable to expect these to tend to be the easier wettings. If these easier wettings were conscious enough to be noticed for the first few days, but not in the 4th or 5th day, they'd disappear from the sample. This might give the perception that the average wetting is more difficult. These easier wettings might happen when the diaper is a little wet (so you won't notice that it is suddenly getting wet). On the other hand, there is clearly more than this going on. Otherwise the more difficult wettings would also progressively require less conscious effort, eventually resulting in a general elimination of conscious continence (and possibly, side conversations about surgical interventions).

Might you have meant "Meet like-minded people..."?

There is an email group, BRiDgE, which is very low-noise: To join, send an email to bbif-request@bbif.org and ask to receive the messages for the Bay Area group. In addition, please provide the following information: Your birthdate. Whether you would prefer individual emails or daily digests. (The web access to messages needs some repair.) If you already subscribe to another BBIF list. (Or you could message me for more info.)

Actually, there is quite a large number of ABDLs in the bay area, although they do tend to be shy. There is a monthly pizza munch in the south bay, and various ageplay events at other locations.

Thank you puffy_bottom. I'm unclear on why those two papers would be under embargo at your institution. Could it be that it doesn't subscribe to those journals?

Dr. Brian Zamboni, who has given us what is currently the most significant body of work on the ABDL community in medical literature, passed away last week. An ongoing issue facing the ABDL community is people who, claiming to be scientific, assert their own dogmas on what infantilism is. In contrast, Brian demonstrated a key virtue of science - he asked. He contacted me back in 2010. Hoping to better understand the interests of some of his patients, he and Dr. Kaitlyn Hawkinson were preparing a survey of the online ABDL community. Having some familiarity with my prior ABDL survey series and analyses, he was wondering if I would be willing to look over their questionnaire. The data from that survey was the basis for several papers written or coauthored by Brian, as well as a few works by others, including at least one thesis and one dissertation. Brian and I were also working on another paper together, based on data from the ABDL survey series. If our paper is eventually published, it will be largely due to Brian's patient and invaluable help with the manuscript. I regret that I only knew Brian from afar, and all too briefly. His several papers on the ABDL community have helped to document our interests and diversity for the medical community, broadening understanding. He - and his contribution to our community - should be remembered.

True. The survey lacks an option for those without partners. As for myself, I tried a number of methods while doing research for an article on diaper area hair removal, and use a Norelco Bodygroom now.

Since not all engineers are men these days, we can't assume this as a motivation. She might have been a sadist.

Good points, which a start-bedwetting program might not have considered. Do we know the source of this one? The start-bedwetting programs might not have been reviewed by as many in the labcoat set as the other kind of bedwetting program.

"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” ― C.S. Lewis

Might the intent be to increase the acidity of the urine to irritate the bladder?

It is great that some of us have received good primers from nurses, although it underlines how much the rest of us needed to learn the hard way. At the library I picked up a few books, looking for what a continence nurse might be using as source material. A quick word search showed that most of them mentioned diapers, but none described their use in detail. True. I don't fault the doctors for being focused on restoring continence. Still, there is the reality that in many cases, they won't be able to. Since the nurses would be the ones changing the diapers in the hospital, delegating the tutoring to them seems reasonable. Maybe a bad example. If the salesperson was claiming that it was easy to service, I might ask him about service details and then check the service manual to see how much faith I could put in his knowledge about servicing the car. The honesty of salespersons is harder to check. That seems a wonderfully dated and unscientific position.

Sorry that you all had to learn so much the hard way... I had hoped that you would have received better support. Is there some other resource filling the gap? Has the pin-it-on-and-learn-from-there school been mostly OK?

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Yay! Thanks for sharing.

In that case, I've greatly misunderstood the primary point of the OP, and will bow out after offering an anecdote. Predestination affects the interpretation of causality, in turn affecting the interpretation of morality, upon which words like "good" and "bad" hang. One time my bicycle was stolen from the church parking lot while I was in Bible study. My first and third thought were about how it was stolen, and about how I could replace it. These weren't notably affected by a belief in predestination. The second thought, however, was unique to the doctrine: "God stole my bike." (Yes, technically, it was God's bike, but still, the thought occurred.)

I was looking into some studies on a medical aspect of adult diaper usage, and realized that there was one systematic difference between adult diaper wearers who are incontinent and those who are not: Incontinent adults might have received key pointers from their urologists or other doctors, nurses, etc. In contrast, non-incontinent ABDLs might not discuss it with their doctors for decades, and so might have to learn many things the hard way. Not knowing what they don't know, they (including myself) might not think to ask. (Given this, please excuse the broad question. Briefly mentioning something as previously discussed is great. Omitting something, assuming it obvious to all, might be problematic.) What key advice did you receive from your urologist (or other doctors, nurses, etc.) about safely managing diapers?

Bumping, hoping for more discussion on the second question. If we get desensitized to how we and our homes smell, there is a risk that they don't smell to others like they do to us. Other than knowing that this might be the case, how do we know if this is the case?

OP, While I superficially agree with your conclusion, I have to fault your method. Specifically, it doesn't build from a minimal set of assumptions towards a conclusion. Granted, it is as close to being systematic as many religious discussions get. Infantwish's duck example is cleaner, but could still benefit from some refinement. Do ducks cease to be ducks when they become muddy (and thus are brown instead of purple)? It is also deductive, and so fails with any assumption, observation, or deductive step. In practice, sadly, this is generally true. The scientific ideal is to replace unnecessary assumptions and bad conclusions & observations. However, in practice, this is a bit like replacing a building's foundation from within the building. A useful narrowing of the topic. Touching on usefulness might have been useful. How would the decisions of a believer be different if that believer believed in free will instead of predestination? We should remember that if God is all-powerful, Christ could have been a theologian or a philosopher. Carpentry might not have been an accident. Unlike theology and philosophy, woodworks have got to work.

You might get more responses if you were more specific about where in CA you were looking.