yea but sadly what about those who cant afford that see i wanna start setting like a fur con only were we all can be out selfs (babys and daddys and mommahs and such) in public but still hidden but the problem is find a spot to do it i know we would need a pool (kids love to swim with there dadas and mommahs) probly a spot to lay the kids down for naps and let the adults have some alone time and most likely a near by hotel so we can make this like a week long or some thing but i wanna try to keep the cost down make it more budget friendly but yea if it works out i might be getting a freind to let me buy his ranch off him (i hope he dose cause then we will have a 16 foot pool heated a 6 bed room far house with some moding can be made prefect for a abdl ranch little over 20 acres remote spot so we can all be who we want to be and best thing is i can charge as low as i want xp