Creepymouse

I guess it does come down to definition. I've always considered the definition of (bowel/bladder) incontinence is the inability to void in the socially acceptable way. Whether that means the bladder itself behaves badly, or the mind/body connection, or just the mental training it takes to diaper train oneself, or if a person were never toilet trained nor informed what the 'socially acceptable' method for disposing of one's waste was.

Says the person with 17 posts when it is clear that there are a dozen or more here that not only believe it can be done, but have done it. You don't have to erase anything, just make a habit that overwrites it and becomes your new 'basic mechanism'.

The problem with something like pizza is it really is a blend of pleasant tastes and textures. Generally, pizza 'flavored' snacks are more or less pepperoni flavored or they're just nothing like pizza at all.

 

And yeah Tox, psyllium fiber does some weird stuff. I made a very jello-like mass once, you could spoon it like jello at least.

I also ran across a handicapped stall which had a discarded intermittent cath and wrapper on the floor. I'm with my Dad on this one - wish I could make litterbugs eat their litter. It's not that hard to put it in the trash can.

Yeah, there were quite a few doctors using it for so-called 'off label' purposes like OAB and OAAP (made up acronym for over-active arm pits XD heard about  that one on some TV show)

Definitely more superhero shows for me, haven't seen Adventure Time, the previews look downright idiotic.

Thanks for your persistence and dedication to the topic. It would be really neat to hear what Alwayswet (the author of 12 month program) has to say about it now, years down the line.

Anyway, I always found 'airing out' to be easy enough, though it does require sitting on a towel or waterproof chair pad. It's not perfect but it does offer a bit of a chance to dry.

It is the mental part that is difficult.

Right, because it is your MIND that requires the training. If you could flip the unconscious switch to tell yourself that your diaper is the appropriate place to do your business, your body would just follow along. Unfortunately, most of us can't do that. The 12-month method and the upgrades that Blake has been working on primarily help you train your mind to overcome your potty training, instead making it a habit that you void wherever you are. When that gets firmly established, the physical part just happens.

I never found that double disposables were of any use at all. Some extra absorbancy at the expense of a LOT of extra bulk, extra plastic, and extra expense. I used primarily the Abri-let maxi boosters or toddler diapers as inserts. When I've doubled full briefs, even when thoroughly punctured, I always ended up with problems and a lot of unused capacity. I like your idea of using a pinwheel, but I doubt it would work any better for me.

One of my favorite techniques for home use is to actually un-seal the back waistband of an Abena M4 and insert an Abri-let booster between the existing padding and the outer shell. That essentially doubles the internal capacity of the abena, without defeating any of the leak protections of the diaper. I'll sometimes place a piece of 'magic chamois' microfiber fleece between my skin and the diaper, which will help to wick the moisture from the front area into the back. When I don't use the shammy, I end up getting the front soaked but the back bone dry.

Finally, I never found that disposables were satisfactory for night wear. I went strictly with cloth diapers and slept the better for it. I never had to worry about capacity. Every time I'd sleep in a disposable I'd wake up with it coming off and all screwed up. I am a very active sleeper. That and I never once had a disposable that didn't leak in bed.

On an off note, I thought it was quite funny that the only time I needed a change of clothes at work was when I wasn't diapered! I spilled orange soda in my lap.

@Wendy
Not only that, but before the development of infant formula, it wasn't uncommon to nurse infants for several years, until they were able to eat 'adult' foods. Of course this depended on culture and such but many children would be more likely to remember that closeness. Interestingly, some women will continue for quite a long time after giving birth without having a period, if they're nursing, providing a limited form of natural birth control.

I've always found the connection between nursing, intimacy, sex, and oxytocin to be very interesting.

If you're avoiding the use of any medications to help, there are a few herbal things that can effect the process as well. Fenugreek and Goat's Rue are the two that I've seen most widely used, and things such as Mother's Milk herbal tea and 'More Milk' drops; both made for nursing mothers who want to provide an ample supply of milk.

My lady and I are on a fairly regular schedule again, as we have a few months supply of Dom on the way and she wants to try again.

Set a gentle alarm sometime before your usual o'dark awakening. Just enough to wake you up to void, and slip back to sleep. Kinda the opposite concept of setting a midnight alarm for bedwetters  to help them get up to pee.

Thank you for the update, interesting commentary.

The constant changing,washing,using creams to prevent soreness,the fear of going out in public and either being spotted wearing a diaper or having to change when out.You plan every trip by how far the nearest toilet is,being in places where you haven't been before and not knowing where the nearest toilet is,needless to say every trip has to be planned with almost military precision,every where you go you must remeber to take all your supplies with you.

I suppose this is the difference between wanting something and having something forced on you. (As an aside example, a lady I know was very upset to hear that my wife wanted breast implants. The woman had breast cancer and while the implant she got gave her a semblance of normality, she still felt like her breast had been taken from her. On the other hand, wife wanted implants, and was willing to accept any side effects that went with them.) While you can understand that diapers are reasonably comfortable and convenient, your perspective will always be one of a person who has had continence stripped from him against his will.

As one of those who likes diapers and is fascinated by the possibility of having my choice taken away, I've spent months straight in diapers, using them and dealing with the same consequences as though I were incontinent. Changing was twice or three times a day, and it was quite a bit more enjoyable than a normal trip to the bathroom. Washing was normal in the shower, since I didn't have messy diapers more than once a day if that, so nothing out of the ordinary. No cream was needed, though powder on the inner thighs helped with chafing. I never had any fear of going out in public, heck I went to work every day, and often changed at work or while out shopping or such. I had no more trouble worrying about a toilet than any continent person, perhaps less, and never required any semblance of military precision. I ONCE forgot a diaper because I didn't expect to have to walk home and find that I was locked out because my wife went on a spontaneous trip somewhere without telling me, and though it was a cold, wet wait, it wasn't torturous by any stretch. Two disposables in the valet box in the van and a couple in my backpack + some powder and wipes, no worries.

On the other hand, since I am one of those who wants this, I can't fully understand the mindset of someone like you, who has lost the option to choose. I can see how things like that would be frustrating for you, but I can't truly know how bad it is, because the same things that bother you about it are what I expect and enjoy about it.

I've read of people complaining about changing their sheets twice in one night, about having to change clothes and do tons of extra laundry, and to me that is simply an example that they aren't managing their condition properly. I honestly haven't been actively pursuing incontinence for the last several years, from a combination of financial issues and lack of interest. But if it were to come upon me suddenly, I would know what I was getting in to and how to handle it. And I wouldn't mind at all. It wouldn't change my life, only my underwear.

to protect from leeks

Oh no! Leeks!

The problem is that so many people are afraid of the word "socialism" that they don't realize that most of the developed world has socialized medicine. While it may not be the best care available, at least it IS available. Here in the US you have the right to die or accept massive, soul crushing debt if you haven't prepared well enough for an emergency. (Or have been unable to prepare, as the case may be.)

I find it funny that so many citizens of such a supposedly "Christian" nation are so afraid of so-called "socialism"... I hear there was a guy about two thousand years ago that said to love your neighbor and share with the poor. Maybe they've heard of him.