the reason the mens underwear is so stiff and uncomfortable , is that the ones from walmart , and kmart and target, the FTL and wven the Hanes , are not first rate underwear. they are seconds and not only are they not comfortable , the sizing is lousy . even the womens panties i have gotten for myself at these discount stores are not of the same quality as the larger department stores like Kohl's and JCP , and Sears. so unfortunately we have to buy our sissyish and feminine panties from more expensive sources if we want them to fit us right , withor without our diapers on , . that sasid hooray for womens panties