I'm Gonna Fall On My Own Sword Here...

[Sojourner]

I have asked DailyDi for his blessing to post this and he has graciously approved, and I wish to thank him for this chance to say what needs to be said.

There's been enough drama in chat and I hope it's enough to say that we're all tired of it. Since I am an integral part of the drama at hand, I will be the first to speak about it. What I am posting here it not intended to challenge, but analyze and question...objectively and fairly, in hope that the drama will ebb or hopefully even stop.

We all have ideas on how an ideal moderator would be: fair, polite, effective, good bedside manner, discreet, rational, et cetera. What I have witnessed over the last few months has finally brought me to a point where I can no longer salve my conscience or be silent about it. I would rather risk my own existence here than let it continue, so I appeal to those in chat to read and consider what I write.

We have at least five moderators here: BettyPooh, Repaid, alex 04, *~andrea~* and warpiper. The first three I have come to know and respect as good people, fair in their duties, discreet about how they carry them out and have thus earned my respect. *~andrea~* and warpiper I once respected, but no longer can do so. Before and upon becoming moderators, I enjoyed their friendship, conversation and companionship in chat. What I came to appreciate was that they were effective in keeping minors out of chat and enforcing the "No PM without permission first" rule, a very good rule.

For awhile, things were fine...but over time, I have seen *~andrea~* and warpiper play games with their powers: jokingly boot people, starting to openly brag about their duties or what they can or have done with them. I wrote it off as "personality" for the sake of peace in chat (which is ironic, considering I like to blurt out certain words at random). As time continued to move on, I have witnessed surliness increase and move from not only relatively-unknown users but to well-known users in chat; I know several people who are on the verge of leaving chat because they fear that anything they say in chat will start the moderators on a tirade of intimidation and threats of kicking. I have watched my two former friends descend from fun people to angry people who are not afraid to show they can and will be decisive in their responses to that which they are not happy with. I have witnessed *~andrea~*'s all-caps tirades, I have not only seen warpiper become aggressive towards good people but I have received a threatening e-mail from him on one particular matter, without him even asking first how the matter came to be. It is wholesale intimidation without fear of reproach or accountability on the part of the one in authority. The flashpoint was election night, when *~andrea~* and warpiper both repeatedly threatened to kick people out of chat who breathed one word about politics.

This, people, is not effective moderation; this, in my heartfelt opinion, is the perfect example of absolute power corrupting absolutely. Intimidation, browbeating, arrogance. This is exactly why I refuse to be a moderator anywhere, because in my 14 years online I have seen this destroy chatrooms, injure good people, decimate communities. I do not have the lack of heart to descend into this type of behavior or abuse of power because I do not wish to be the reason, in whole or part, that a good community fragments.

Am I challenging authority? No...I am questioning the integrity of the ones who wear the badges of authority, those being *~andrea~* and warpiper. I am making my observation clear of the stark contrast I have seen in them when I compare who they were then to who they've become now. The difference I see is day and night. I kept my mouth shut when they started doing what they did and trying to find the reason in it, only to be intimidated by them...my own then-friends. I bit my tongue, I let it go. I am sorry, but I can no longer let that continue in good conscience. And what hurts more is the attacks and false accusations *~andrea~* has levied upon me in the last 48 hours. Because of this, the relationships I had with these two are irreparably damaged.

In my opinion, *~andrea~* and warpiper need to be removed from authority as moderators for abuse of power and privilege and for conduct unbecoming of their office. There are others in chat who are far more fair and balanced to carry out these duties fairly, discreetly and effectively. I refuse to be considered, as that can only divide the community further. Alex 04 has been a good, fair moderator, as have Repaid and BettyPooh and I think they will be good enough for the task at hand at the present time. This is my opinion, I believe it is far and honest, and I stand firmly behind it.

I am now willing to go, at the sole discretion of DailyDi. If that is what he chooses. I am at peace with it, as I have said my piece with a clear conscience. Some things are worth risking your existence for, people...it's worth it. As are you all. Goodbye in advance, if that happens.

[Guest]

I totally agree Sojo, if you go, I go too, I'm sick and tired as well.

[aprilalyssa]

I do not agree with this at all.. all andi and piper have done is enforce the rules and help alot of people including me.. iv seen sojo make smart ass comments to both andi and piper i even saw sojo tell piper to **fuck off** if u ask my from my point of view sojo is acting like a spoiled brat who dropped his ice cream. iv never seen andii or piper abuse there power and im on here alot. all i ever see is piper and andi helping new people and makinh sure the rules are followed.. so i say they should be kept in office and be given a heart felt thank for helping.. tyvm for reading this.. huggles and kisses

[Mischa]

Personally, I wish there would be a way to secretly nominate and then elect moderators to serve a certain term, and if they receive a certain number of complaints, they should be removed as moderators at the discretion of the Admins.

There have also been issues with Alex as a moderator in the past, from what I can remember.

[BabyTau]

okay...iv personally never had any problems with any of the mods.

[~*PrincessZozo*~]

Personally, I wish there would be a way to secretly nominate and then elect moderators to serve a certain term, and if they receive a certain number of complaints, they should be removed as moderators at the discretion of the Admins.

There have also been issues with Alex as a moderator in the past, from what I can remember.

There should also be a

There were elections.. Nothing ever came from them

[cody9ball]

you know before all you guys came along it was good their gona be bad people but you know some things you should know andi trying to get other things streingend out, as lota you know andi tells lota information an is dealing with it but she a good person an piper one the best people i know it called joking around with true freinds.... just because your tierd dosent mean you need to make a big scean of it we all joke around grow up an deal with it their not doing anything wrong when they kick or ban most people its beause of cyber bulling an more... also i been here for over a year an lot has changed it went from fun to medioker to bad an back up you know people come an go all the time an we always need a mood but at same time a lota people cant take it because their eathier not senstive an or are sensitve an are looking to make or prove a point to someone this is not that place to make a point or prove. People you all need to learn that it online not in poerson but o waite you cant deal with that an sojo if i recall you do SEX all the time so tecniqly your in the wrong... see i dont express my opin much but this stupidy of makeing these remarks are unethical an think that maby if you have a problum to deal with it like a grown up or leave an piper would never send threathning emails you know sometimes i wounder if you are trying to make a sean for the hell of it you know wwe all have drama we all have copeing ways you know just because u can make people think of you an or go all off an make others feel bad think about what kind of person your devloping your brain to be an it not healthey actully mentally it hurts you an others around you.... we all deal with things diffrenty maby try not be so juge mental its like i say if you dont like me greate i dont give an ratts butt but if you dont then stay away you can be freinds with my enemy at least i got a life an maturity of myselfe compair to someone who probably 2 to 3 times my age..... It sad maby peace will never come always gota be some battle or war i just hope if i become a doctor that if i ever find out it you or im famouse i wounder hmmm rembere that time he was trying to be someone or out to get people do i relly want to be this persons doctor or care about him...... No because i only want good people not bad so maby you should back off an take care of yourselfe first an do things healthy way not a way to get a few kicks about..... it seems to me you dont think about the responiblitty of your actions only think that you gota try to prove your right all the time an mentally it a bad thing it can get you in tru;ble if it hasent already in your life i hope you love the life your living an have learned from mastakes your living.

DD I DONT THINK THE MODS HAVE DONE ANYTHING WRONG I THINK THEIR JUST WACHING OUT FOR YOUR SITE AN THE OTHER OF MILLIONS THAT ARE ON HERE BECAUSE I KNOW THIS WORK CAN BE MESSEY IM A BOUNCER AT A NIGHT CLUB AN UNDERSTAND PEOPLE GONA GET MAD IN MY MIND THIKS ITS MORE OF A PERSONAL PROBLUM FOR THEM THEN ANYTHOING TO DO WITH THE MODS ON HERE.

THANK YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY FROM CODY9BALL........

[babyella]

so far, as being a new member on here for DD, i have found both Andrea and Piper to be really amazing ppl who take their job seriously because on some chat sites, it needs to have strict guidelines to follow or things get out of hand really quick.. Andrea and Piper have welcomed me to the site and were there when i struggled signing on with my first named i entered as... and changed it for me... for ppl to take judge of them is wrong.. have you ever seen it from their point of view on why they do their job nicely or in your eyes pooorly... being a mod is alot of responsiblity to keep a site/chat safe from perves, HNG's etc.. this is a place to hang out, have fun and be ourselves.. not to get harassed or bullied.. so i vote them both in for excellent candidates.

[little_tikes_dad]

Greetings, after reading all the opinions, and being a newbie, I figured I would make a comment. I may not speak much when logged into chat and that's for good reason. I have observed many chats that have their personal favorites, and those that get shunned from that group. Now this includes mods. In the small amount of time I have been here I have had the chance to observe many things. But I have not seen any abuse of power that would be justifiable cause for removal. I know that often times things may get a little carried away, as it can with any chat. Sometimes what we perceive things to be are not always what they are meant as. Communication and asking before making a decision helps clear any confusion.

[Guest Little-Tike]

I Have seen nothing bu two mods here and they surely do their job in my eyes for amount of time i been here. Alot better then most chats. Here their strict that is much needed. Rules have to be put down or people will walk all over mods and others. I like it here very much i have had others sign up because of how i feel about being here long or short doesnt matter. I will continue to stay i hope they dont get rid of the two mods ive seen in here.

[Guest]

The chat logs don't lie. I too have seen abuse from the mods directed at a new guy with what seems like a literacy problem. That was not cool.

[Holli]

I`ve been on this site for almost a year now , I have never had a problem with any of the mods on here . Andrea is a good friend of mine and I will stick up for her but this is not the reason I am against Sojourner! Last night (November 7th 2012 ) Sojourner was making all types of rude remarks about Andrea thinking that no one in chat was paying attention to it then when I called him on it he kept trying to make it all sound like a misunderstanding which it was not . I think that he is being very immature about the whole Andrea and Warpiper being mods and should keep his thoughts to himself . There was no real reason for him to start this drama , every time this is brought up there are so many member that say they do not have a problem with the mods so who can we believe ? More then a dozen people or one or two that dislike the fact that they were not chosen to be mods and are pissed about it . This site was suppose to be something that ab`s and dl`s could chat and have a good time but there is so much drama that no one can actually have a good conversation and one of those people that has brought this drama up is Sojourner . I can honestly say that before this started i had no problems with him other then his SEX! post that he keep posting which is getting VERY ANNOYING AND VERY OLD

i think he is lying about all the rude comments he made about Andrea and Warpiper and i think he should get off his high horse and be a man about it and come clean.

[Guest Penelope]

Hi. I admit when I first joined the site in may, I was kinda scared of andi, she is much more outspoken then me and I didn't know when she was joking, but as I have gotten to know her, I have found her to be very fair. She questions and researches and she double checks things before she makes decisions. I will admit I consider war piper to be a great friend of mine. He has helped me in so many ways. He has always been honest with people in the room, he is a very straightforward and fair person. He has given more than one chance to more than one person.

I had a little trouble with certain persons in dd. I was able to ask piper for advice and he was always honest with me. He did. To just tell me what I wanted to hear.

I personally think a moderator is supposed to be a fair, open minded , honest, helpful, guiding person, and I think piper is all of those things and more!

Daily Di, I have so many other things I could share about how helpful both of these mods have been to me, and if u would like to know them, please feel free to pm me or email me.

I hope the words of one do not ruin the good for many.

Penelope

[~*PrincessZozo*~]

I`ve been on this site for almost a year now , I have never had a problem with any of the mods on here . Andrea is a good friend of mine and I will stick up for her but this is not the reason I am against Sojourner! Last night (November 7th 2012 ) Sojourner was making all types of rude remarks about Andrea thinking that no one in chat was paying attention to it then when I called him on it he kept trying to make it all sound like a misunderstanding which it was not . I think that he is being very immature about the whole Andrea and Warpiper being mods and should keep his thoughts to himself . There was no real reason for him to start this drama , every time this is brought up there are so many member that say they do not have a problem with the mods so who can we believe ? More then a dozen people or one or two that dislike the fact that they were not chosen to be mods and are pissed about it . This site was suppose to be something that ab`s and dl`s could chat and have a good time but there is so much drama that no one can actually have a good conversation and one of those people that has brought this drama up is Sojourner . I can honestly say that before this started i had no problems with him other then his SEX! post that he keep posting which is getting VERY ANNOYING AND VERY OLD

i think he is lying about all the rude comments he made about Andrea and Warpiper and i think he should get off his high horse and be a man about it and come clean.

He switched to HOORF a few months back, it's still annoying.

[lunatyke]

I'm really going to try my hardest to keep things level.

Need I remind you that Daily Di chat is a place for people to express themselves freely? Although I've never had a problem with you, Sojo, I have a major problem with what you have conceived. Publicly humiliating someone because you don't exactly fancy their actions or behaviors is counter-productive. You don't like the way things are lined up for you in there? Your finger just pushed the first domino, in regards to this "drama".

Haven't you have to work with people you do not like before? Have you not had to shake the hand of a person who you feel will fuck you over? We usually ignore these people if we don't like them. I can't change the way you think about them, but these two have jumped at the opportunity to lend help to others. So what? They rubbed you the wrong way. Perception is reality. I think very highly of them, you, and everyone in chat. Everyone has a place. Let's communicate that message. DailyDi, ADISC, and places of the like exist to teach people that this is a COMPLETELY fine, safe, and encouraging environment to be yourself. And it's a team effort. Don't blow this for us.

[Lil Sissy Kimi]

i will personally admit that andi and warpiper are firm but that is in the job description. and yes andi has jokingly booted someone but it was someone she knew and he knew it was a joke. i personally think they should stay mainly cause they have the time to be here which does make them qualified and the fact that most people love em. yea i got a point for swearing which where not in the rules but these are personal rules that warpiper and andi ask of us and disobeying the rule is disrespectful and that is what i think this is all boiling down too is respect and to disrespect a mod in it self to me is bad.

[missyD]

I guess some people feel it necessary to raise the level of "drama" by taking it out of the room and bringing it to the forum. Such a shame. I would just like to go on the record as saying that I think all the mods here do a great job. Perhaps now that poor behaviour being even less tolerated, I might just spend some more time in the room. Oh, one more thing, I personally believe that it is more productive to praise in public and criticize in private. Some times criticizing people in public is just plain rude. And warpiper and andrea? /me shakes her head

[warpiper]

Thank you everybody for your support.

I admit that telling people they couldn't talk about political stuff and threatening to kick them on election day was censorship, but I honestly did it to keep people from fighting. People had been arguing in the morning, so I decided that it was a day that we did not need each other attacking others so that we could all be friends the next day when it all cooled off.

Sojourner has had a campaign over the last few months because he thinks that we abuse people. However, he only sees half of the story, because he only gets to see people kicked. He doesn't see women tormented in chat by endless PMs that they didn't agree to, and many get run out of chat because of this. He doesn't see people get reported, because that is a closed system, to which the moderators only have access. I get the report, I put a warning on their account, and I or one of the other moderators kicks them from chat so they can see the warning. Sojourner seems to think that this is done as sport, and that the volunteers who give up their time are just having fun kicking people, but this is far from the truth.

How many out there have I helped with issues with their account, helping them fix their name, or validate their account, or just lend an ear to? This is a thankless job, and because of people like Sojourner, we also get verbally attacked.

On election night, November 6th, Sojourner was purposefully trying to entice people to argue. I told him to stop, and then he called me a moron, and said "Fuck you." I didn't attack him, I was polite, and he came at me with insults.

I am on here because I like to help people, but when you have one bad apple ruining the bunch, who tries to speak loud, and pretend he has support, you end up with situations like this. I will continue in my role as a moderator and continue to help people, and I won't let one sour apple spoil my time, and neither should you.

[JustAWolf]

Wow... I'm rather surprised at some of the responses.

I prefer staying neutral, as I don't want to make enemies either, but if my current view can help anyone, including the parties involve realize how they are being observed...

These are Sojo's complains, concerns and observations. He finds something unfair in the mods. They shouldn't be dismissed, but they shouldn't be taken into immediate action of banning / suspension / removal of a mod etc... There's a reason why he has these concerns, and if it allows us to step back a moment and think on our actions, or what we could do to make a better environment for all of us, then great!

I don't know most of them, only recently knew there was at least 3. piper has been very helpful when I was having issues, and I have not noticed anything off in chat.

Andrea, well... as far as Mod duties, she's been constantly after people who have not validated their account, and cause issues. There's once that there was an accidental kick, and another time where it was due to a patch going on with the chat, that was all in good fun... we needed to be removed anyways. (Edit -> Not a complaint, this is of course a part of their duties and are effective and on top of thing)

Andrea, sometimes you can seem a bit... well, I don't have the word for it. You should probably lay low on typing massive text and lines in all caps and spamming 4-10 lines... That's rather annoying. I could easily see a mod telling a person doing that to stop. I've grown to believe it's just part of your personality, who you are. I don't say you're a bad mod either, I've seen you do your job and you're in the chat more often then anyone else... but moderating yourself also might help. It's my observation, take it with a grain of salt.

There was a temporary 'No talk of Politics' that day, and they actually didn't go around kicking that much, otherwise I think we'd have seen nearly everyone get kicked. We, as a whole, couldn't stop talking about it. It served to remind us that all our opinions are different, and we didn't want a huge debate / drama / issues going on because not every agrees with each other. I think it was fair considering how important that day was to all americans. You want your voice heard? Go Vote! =)

Dunno if that helps. No ill will either way. Nothing meant to be personal, but just observation. I don't claim to be right, nor wrong. I am.. well.. Just a wolf

Aroo

[DailyDi]

[bold posting and upsizing to signify an official response.]

I am against censorship and have been very clear about that over the years. The mods were wrong to impose a no politics rule on election night, and I have told them such and one of them has apologized for it. The chat room has always been intended to be a more open and free conversation than the forums which are topic-limited and moderated. The Mod-team's job in chat is to keep the kids out, and remove abusive members who violate the rules repeatedly after being warned.

Sojo's language and attacks on that night was also wrong... though I understand his anger. As I understand it, he questioned the rule that he knew I would never have approved, and was told to follow this new rule AND not to question the authority of the mods... this would piss me off too. Though i would hope I would be able to argue civilly and expect our members to do the same.

I am not asking anyone to leave the community. And i gave this topic my blessing as I want to hear the thoughts of all members on our rules and policies, as well as those who volunteer to enforce them.

I take partial responsibility for this particular event, as on Election-eve I was working for one of the campaigns, and election day I injured myself and was not available to answer the early reports that if gotten to quickly might have settled things down sooner.

[warpiper]

If anybody is going to be at fault for the censorship thing, it was me. Andi is a chat moderator only, and she was following my word, so she is not to be blamed for it. The only reason I did it was so that you guys would not be attacking each other, because my experience at that time was that few people could talk civilly about the election.

I apologize for censoring people in the chat. It will not happen again.

[sarah_ab]

i came in on election and was informed piper decided there were to be no political discussions in chat only piper was not in the chat room..... im pretty sure there are no rules about discussing politics in chat .... and to be told a moderator who isnt even around (and i was told was 'gettin drunk') is not exactly fair ....

i used to visit the chat every day almost for years and have been a registered member under this name for almost six ..... i rarely go into the chatroom anymore for many of the reasons sojo posted.

[Guest *~Andi~*]

I was not going to post anything on this. However seeing as this is something that is a viewpoint I want to just go ahead and put this into clarity. I am a chat mod. Nothing more. Im not admin, I do not have the authority to impose rules, nor do I try to make any. When in chat I follow the rules laid out to me as per admin; the main ones specified by Repaid. These were laid out in a conversation when he turned me on as mod. Since that time these rules have been gone over and reinforced and even changed somewhat to ensure the benefit of the chat members stay intact. I know my duties, I do not intentionally try to break them, or at any given time bend them to my will. All I have is a kick button, if I kick someone, I file a report so it is seen as to why that person has been kicked. If there are any questions as to what my job is then please feel free to ask admin at any given time, if you ever feel I am overstepping boundaries, call me out on it, or report me so it can be investigated. Because this... is too much.

Now... the other night.

The ban on election stuff was handed down to me by ADMIN warpiper, I simply enforced it. The reason sojourner was kicked from chat was not do to his anger over the election. I said nothing at all in chat until I saw what sojourner had stated to piper. If chat logs are reviwed it shows that piper at no times attacked sojourner. The incident could have been handled in a civil way. Instead sojourner attacked warpiper, calling him a moron. I told him to calm down and stop with the threats to which he replied to me, "Fuck you." This is why he was kicked. Nothing more than that.

In regards to the other accusations made against me:

I feel that his stuff is unfounded and fictitious mainly. But if this is how sojourner feels then its how he feels. The caps tirade... many people type in caps? The kick wars... all the mods come in chat and do that so now only piper and I are guilty? I try my best to be nice to everyone that comes thru that door in chat, but sometimes how I type is misconstrued as being mean because I am a very blunt person. This doesnt mean that I am cruel or rude, it just gets taken that way. Ive been working on it and gotten a lot better with it. However with that, Sojourner wants to accuse Piper and I of being surly as he calls it towards members of chat, but Sojourner doesnt want to place himself in the fire as well. A prime example... It wasnt but a week or so ago he was in chat being quite surly towards a member that had just joine because that member had been cast down as a troll/ HNG. So you shouldnt cast stones. We are all guilty of not being nice at one point or another in our lives.

As far as integrity goes I will only touch lightly on this because what goes on outside of DD cant really be reflected upon here. Sojourner, you call my accusations false and hurtful. Thats ok. Im alright with that. You know what happened, you can lie to everyone here, it doesnt matter. You know what you did. Im at peace with it. I havent lied, I swear it on my daughter's life. Ive not ridiculed you to anyone yet, to a member of chat, to a mod, to anyone. Nor will I. Im not like that. Even tho you think I am and told me as such amongst other things on that messenger. Its ok, I forgive you for it. Because one thing Ive learned in my life, is that sometimes forgiveness isnt always for the person youre forgiving, sometimes its for the person whose doing the forgiving so that they can move on and get past it.

Finally:

Ive been here since 2009. I was not happy with myself for a long time before that. It took coming here to find myself. I love DD. I love the people on here. Every single one of you. Ive made great friends here. I enjoy coming in and watching chat even when Im not part of the convo, and I laugh for hours sometimes. Sometimes I cry but every time Im on here I am glad I got on. Ive made life long friends here. While I write this I am actually crying because the things that have happened really hurt. The thing is that I cant let this be the end all for me. If the admin feels that I am not a good mod then I will agree with whatever they want to do. Regardless, I dont want anyone to be upset at the results of whatever happens, i just want everyone to continue to be on here and be happy. So please do that. Love you all ♥♥♥

[:dlb]

The political crap on fb was bad enough. Bringing it into chat is just a foolproof way of provoking fighting and arguments. I for one feel the decision was a correct one. I don't agree with censorship either but politics in a chat room always tend to spiral out of control. I'm not much for words and i don't like to get involved in the drama, and fighting. But i feel Piper and Andi have done a great job as mods keeping out the HNGs, underaged, and anyone else whom do not follow the rules.

[ForbiddenFruit]

There's two things to note here:

1. The rules

Andi was enforcing a rule that didn't exist, made by piper as an ad-hoc thing. I'm gonna suggest that some genuine rules besides the PM one are actually carved out so admins know what they can and can't do. As it stands chat rules -seem- to be a mobocracy that isn't even there with no real consensus. Not a comment on the issue, just saying it'd freaking help. And have the fucker stickied, jeez.

2. The incident.

Though I wasn't there for it, I've heard accounts. Though, obviously I can't condone Andi kicking for something that didn't warrant a kicking, the real issue was what came after - and from all I've heard, Soj cast the first stone, and nothing that was said was worse than his outright "Fuck you" (actually in chat log) alongside (allegedly) calling Andi a 'psycho cunt' and Godwinning on both piper and andi.

All I got from you yesterday soj was a sneering condescension (after breaking "don't PM without first asking" but you know I usually let that slide), and all you spoke to me for was to rub it in, that's the impression I got. Was there really any reason to say "There's going to be some big changes in the next 48 hours?" I just shrugged it off and said, on at least 3 occasions because you wouldn't stop, that DD and repaid as higher ups would handle it. Evidently, sleeping on that didn't let it sink in, because you brought it up this evening, well after creating this thread, and despite me saying it again at least three times, you wouldn't drop it. You wouldn't leave it to the higher ups who actually have the control. If you're so confident in your position, you'd let what played out play out. I had no quarrel with what you did, not even make this thread. You reported to the higher ups, which was the right thing to do - you should have left it at that. Don't talk about 'integrity' after you PM'd me to gloat about 'big changes' and kept throwing it around like a petulant child when you know this would be taken care of by DD, repaid, and this thread. It's your arrogance that I take issue with.

As for andi and piper themselves, I've few complaints to make. Sure, I could do with less ALL CAPS and jokekicking (don't make a toy out of your responsibility), but Andi's been very good for checking new and underage users, and though piper has outbursts infrequently it's hardly like chat's crumbling. In fact, Andi's tendency to legislate chat, if anything, has been less frequent since she became mod.

Peace and naughty tickles.