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#1 Eir

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 07:47 PM

http://www.paruresis...faq_page_23.htm

This link explains the breath holding method.

The patients practices breath holding, breathing in deeply, then exhaling 75 percent of this breath. First it is held for 10 seconds, then for 15, then 20, etc.

This raises Blood C02 levels. Between 45 and 60 seconds, the muscles of the pelvic floor drop, and many feel an irreversible relaxation of the urinary sphincters.

I have tried this in the shower, it works. Of course I wore jeans just to make sure that it could override my potty training, this is precisely what happened.


The spirit has been showing me a ton of painful memories that are related to my shy bladder. A lot of it has to do with the way my parents handled my bedwetting. The issue was not that I was a bedwetter, they gave me pullups for those. I needed diapers, pullups leaked, I woke up soaked 2 times a week. I also woke up like a steam locomotive. It was my responsibility to wake up "in time" to bathe before getting dressed and leaving the house. Otherwise, I would be dragged out the door in whatever state I was in. And sometimes, I smelled like soggy pullup.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 10:11 AM

As it is i have a weakened bladder to begin with and wear 24/7 anyway but i tried this and can say with certainity it works. i got to about 45 seconds and the flood gates opened, no warning i just started peeing and couldn't control it till i emptied out. It was great On a side note i wet about every 30 mins or so and not very much at that and i had wet about 10 mins before i tried this.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 11:51 AM

Guess i need to excercise some as i only managed 30 seconds right now..

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 04:28 PM

Guess i need to excercise some as i only managed 30 seconds right now..


30 seconds of what, holding your breath, holding your pee or peeing?

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 09:50 AM

I tried this today. Not only did my urinary sphincters release, but I very nearly shit my diaper. I had to catch it and run for the bathroom, since I never mess at work!

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 10:18 AM

I also gasp for air around 25 seconds. It is just NOT a natural thing to do. I can force myself to hold my breath from 40 to 60 seconds, and it happens!
The spirit has been showing me a ton of painful memories that are related to my shy bladder. A lot of it has to do with the way my parents handled my bedwetting. The issue was not that I was a bedwetter, they gave me pullups for those. I needed diapers, pullups leaked, I woke up soaked 2 times a week. I also woke up like a steam locomotive. It was my responsibility to wake up "in time" to bathe before getting dressed and leaving the house. Otherwise, I would be dragged out the door in whatever state I was in. And sometimes, I smelled like soggy pullup.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 12:24 PM

I can hold my breath for a few minutes. I must be doing it wrong because I have no urge to do anything nor an indication anything is going to happen other than a desire to inhale at about 1 minute mark.

Rebreathing into a paper bag to increase CO2 should have a similar result but I haven't tried that.
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Posted 28 June 2012 - 02:26 PM

I can hold my breath for a few minutes. I must be doing it wrong because I have no urge to do anything nor an indication anything is going to happen other than a desire to inhale at about 1 minute mark.

Rebreathing into a paper bag to increase CO2 should have a similar result but I haven't tried that.


Did you take a deep breath and exhale 75 percent?
The spirit has been showing me a ton of painful memories that are related to my shy bladder. A lot of it has to do with the way my parents handled my bedwetting. The issue was not that I was a bedwetter, they gave me pullups for those. I needed diapers, pullups leaked, I woke up soaked 2 times a week. I also woke up like a steam locomotive. It was my responsibility to wake up "in time" to bathe before getting dressed and leaving the house. Otherwise, I would be dragged out the door in whatever state I was in. And sometimes, I smelled like soggy pullup.

And as usual:

I would rather be at Hippie Hollow!

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 05:39 PM

Yes, but I get the urge to breath before anything happens if anything happens, to the point of spasm in my diaphragm and still no pelvic floor drop. Sounds like the opposite of a kegel exercise.
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Posted 28 June 2012 - 08:26 PM

I tried this again in the shower. I found myself wetting my jeans. There was no warning. :) I peed forcefully. Maybe this works differently for those who are trained at breath holding?
The spirit has been showing me a ton of painful memories that are related to my shy bladder. A lot of it has to do with the way my parents handled my bedwetting. The issue was not that I was a bedwetter, they gave me pullups for those. I needed diapers, pullups leaked, I woke up soaked 2 times a week. I also woke up like a steam locomotive. It was my responsibility to wake up "in time" to bathe before getting dressed and leaving the house. Otherwise, I would be dragged out the door in whatever state I was in. And sometimes, I smelled like soggy pullup.

And as usual:

I would rather be at Hippie Hollow!

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 01:49 AM

Hoping that I can actually hold it for 60 seconds as the longest so far is 45 seconds and nothing happened. Hoping that it work as it always takes me several seconds to get flow going unless I am already super full and could probably fill a 1 liter bottle at that point. Maybe it had something to do with always holding it as a kid as I would always hold it rather then having to use a public restroom. I'm not at all a germaphobe though, so I can only figure it had to do with my social anxiety.
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:08 AM

didnt work for me

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:35 AM

Tried this again just a few minutes ago only this time no diaper on. I got to about 40 seconds and began peeing and soaked my shorts etc. good thing i was outside on my deck when i wet the sun will dry it up in no time.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:23 PM

Hoping that I can actually hold it for 60 seconds as the longest so far is 45 seconds and nothing happened. Hoping that it work as it always takes me several seconds to get flow going unless I am already super full and could probably fill a 1 liter bottle at that point. Maybe it had something to do with always holding it as a kid as I would always hold it rather then having to use a public restroom. I'm not at all a germaphobe though, so I can only figure it had to do with my social anxiety.


Ashley, sounds like you have a minor case of shy bladder. Welcome to the club. :( If you can feel yourself buckling, you are close. At work, when I go into a stall I only need 20 seconds of breath holding. I am relaxed enough to urinate without auditory privacy. For a lack of visual privacy as well, I would need a full pelvic floor drop. Feel free to chat with me in PM.
The spirit has been showing me a ton of painful memories that are related to my shy bladder. A lot of it has to do with the way my parents handled my bedwetting. The issue was not that I was a bedwetter, they gave me pullups for those. I needed diapers, pullups leaked, I woke up soaked 2 times a week. I also woke up like a steam locomotive. It was my responsibility to wake up "in time" to bathe before getting dressed and leaving the house. Otherwise, I would be dragged out the door in whatever state I was in. And sometimes, I smelled like soggy pullup.

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I would rather be at Hippie Hollow!

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 04:57 AM

I'll try this next time I'm in my diapers. But I don't really need to, over the years I've about conditioned myself to become 90% incontinent as soon as I feel my thick, bulky diapers between my legs.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 08:13 AM

I don't know if there's some trick to this I'm not getting or what, but I can't seem to do it. I hold my breath like the articles says to, and after a bit of practice I can get close to not breathing for a full 60 seconds. Despite that and a full bladder, it doesn't make me pee.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 09:46 PM

It seems like some people are having difficulty. The article also said that in some people who have panic disorders, rising c02 levels would have the opposite effect.
The spirit has been showing me a ton of painful memories that are related to my shy bladder. A lot of it has to do with the way my parents handled my bedwetting. The issue was not that I was a bedwetter, they gave me pullups for those. I needed diapers, pullups leaked, I woke up soaked 2 times a week. I also woke up like a steam locomotive. It was my responsibility to wake up "in time" to bathe before getting dressed and leaving the house. Otherwise, I would be dragged out the door in whatever state I was in. And sometimes, I smelled like soggy pullup.

And as usual:

I would rather be at Hippie Hollow!

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 06:24 AM

Tried it in the shower and it somewhat worked for mee too (I started to pee but did nothing to try to hold it). I however really don't like the feeling of being without air, so I could not appreciate it.
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 01:52 PM

Hold my breath 60 seconds? :huh:

Cough, cough. Choke. Gag. Thud :o
Not with these nicotine-filled lungs I don't, but I'm trying this by going as far as I can- so far 40 seconds is all I can do and I get dizzy but not wet :( I ain't giving up yet though :thumbsup: There is nothing I would love more than a temporary 'switch' which would made me lose bladder control, so as long as there's hope my lungs can use the work-out :roflmao:

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 09:17 PM

Hold my breath 60 seconds? :huh:

Cough, cough. Choke. Gag. Thud :o
Not with these nicotine-filled lungs I don't, but I'm trying this by going as far as I can- so far 40 seconds is all I can do and I get dizzy but not wet :( I ain't giving up yet though :thumbsup: There is nothing I would love more than a temporary 'switch' which would made me lose bladder control, so as long as there's hope my lungs can use the work-out :roflmao:

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Keep going Betty you are almost there. :) Some experience a pelvic floor drop at 45 seconds, others 50 some 60. You are almost there! :) I felt myself buckling before the pelvic floor drop if this makes any sense.
The spirit has been showing me a ton of painful memories that are related to my shy bladder. A lot of it has to do with the way my parents handled my bedwetting. The issue was not that I was a bedwetter, they gave me pullups for those. I needed diapers, pullups leaked, I woke up soaked 2 times a week. I also woke up like a steam locomotive. It was my responsibility to wake up "in time" to bathe before getting dressed and leaving the house. Otherwise, I would be dragged out the door in whatever state I was in. And sometimes, I smelled like soggy pullup.

And as usual:

I would rather be at Hippie Hollow!




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