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[Eir]

I have a feeling that Stanley may lose his disability assistance this time. What a foolish decision, jeapordizing everything to go on a freak show, what did he honestly expect? I have a feeling he will hit us up for a living room sofa to sleep on!

[sarah_ab]

unless he meets the financial criteria i highly doubt he will lose ssa .... think of it this way if you need to .... many here say how mentally ill he must be to need to display his private life in public and how he has very poor judgement.... well there ya go you just provided even more reasons why he WOULD be an allowance .... many people mistakenly think he wants to be a 24/7 baby ... could a person who lives as a baby 24/7 be mentally healthy enough to work in an adult job and maintain appropriate behavior 40 hours a week?

[Bettypooh]

Terryfighter, you may be right- it is unwise to make enemies of powerful people even when you are totally right. I might have done it once, but to go with the second time I'd have to be the one controlling the content and comments shown- and of course they won't let you do that. If Stanley gets screwed over for this I will feel sorry for him but I will have to temper that by knowing he took that chance willingly and he should have known it could happen. He was certainly told that here.

As to good or bad done, we're at a point where some know something about us. Maybe half of those understand what we're about and the other half lost as ever To those who know nothing of us, maybe the ratio will continue- who knows? But at least we will now be more known and more discussed- and that is a gain for us even if the discussion doesn't cast us in a good light. Let me explain why.

When people come from knowing nothing and are misinformed, on discovery of that they will come around to the truth. When I came out as a TG to some friends, they thought "Drag". When I explained it wasn't the same at all. some still didn't understand. When I proved my point by showing them pictures of me they saw that indeed it was different and indeed they were wrong. That converted all but two of them to knowing the truth about the difference. We may not have as easy a way to 'prove' this thing, but some will still come around anyway. We are better off for the subject being discussed, especially if we chime in with the facts. That can be done by saying you ran across it online or knew someone like that who pointed you there. Of course it is your choice whether to speak up or not, and what to say if you do.

Not everyone will agree with me and that's fine- to each their own. Not everyone will want to speak of this- even as an uninvolved third party. What I might do or say would have to be based on the who and where of things- some times, people, and places I'd rather avoid this. But is pressed I would always say "To each their own. If it's not hurting anyone it's none of my business what anyone else does." I use that all the time already so nobody would notice it as applying to me, but they would see that this too is just one of the diversities of life, all of which I have no problem with.

To those who believe this should be private I say apply that to yourself, but don't tell others how to live unless you want your own life controlled by the ones who disagree with you. Neither of you has the right to do either, it's live and let live so what works for you may not work for someone else. That is an individual choice and whether you like it or not, you can't control what anyone else does or does not do. If you have a valid argument to back up that point then state it well, discus it if you wish, but don't say that it's wrong just because you wouldn't do it that way- that is not enough reason for someone who is not you.

Bettypooh

[Leilin]

I meant examples of ones that cleaned themselves up, sorry, should have been more specific.

Honestly, I'm not sure I can name one. Most descend and just don't come back. Fetlife is "clean," but that's specifically because it is fissioned and the HNGs can find their own board, whereas the rest of us who want to avoid them like the plague can be elsewhere where they can't annoy us or perv on us.

[Honeywell6180]

You know, I think that in some ways, Stanly could have done us a favor. He really exposes some of the uglier parts of the fetish and AB issue. I put in a nice review of a new Medline product on another site, and got no response at all in 17 hours for the work I put into it. This was the type of pullup that so many people were looking for, with the padding that extended fully, the length of the product, like many of the store brands.

Instead, people wanted to talk about sticking marshmallows up their rectum, to induce an "accident". They wanted to talk about how "wonderful" it feels to be in a "wet, squishy diaper". Stupid is, as stupid does. And I think that perhaps half of those folks at least, have a problem that's probably worse than Stanly's. What in the World is wrong with "dry, and comfortable"? Well, that's my preference, the love for good hygiene, the ability to function, and the pride of being in complete control of my facilities. Not to mention, the thankfulness of people around me, for my ability to care for my own needs without depending on others.

Sadly, about half of the people who visit these sites, really don't represent us at all. Not the DL community, not the AB community, and certainly not those with disabilities or suffering from some form of incontinence.

[Honeywell6180]

Correction on the above post: The adult pull-on actually has the padding that extends like a child's pullup, not the low-rise center panel of a typical Depends. Sorry for the error.

[sarah_ab]

You know, I think that in some ways, Stanly could have done us a favor. He really exposes some of the uglier parts of the fetish and AB issue. I put in a nice review of a new Medline product on another site, and got no response at all in 17 hours for the work I put into it. This was the type of pullup that so many people were looking for, with the padding that extended fully, the length of the product, like many of the store brands.

Instead, people wanted to talk about sticking marshmallows up their rectum, to induce an "accident". They wanted to talk about how "wonderful" it feels to be in a "wet, squishy diaper". Stupid is, as stupid does. And I think that perhaps half of those folks at least, have a problem that's probably worse than Stanly's. What in the World is wrong with "dry, and comfortable"? Well, that's my preference, the love for good hygiene, the ability to function, and the pride of being in complete control of my facilities. Not to mention, the thankfulness of people around me, for my ability to care for my own needs without depending on others.

Sadly, about half of the people who visit these sites, really don't represent us at all. Not the DL community, not the AB community, and certainly not those with disabilities or suffering from some form of incontinence.

well duh... lots of people like to be wet and squishy.. so apparently according to t his, if someone doesn't respond to a post after 17 hours, and instead responds to a post about somethjing that also turns them on... they are stupid?

seriously not everyone CARES about pullups... i mean .. many of us want the traditional taped on crinkly thick diaper.. and we want to be 'made' to wet and mess it like a baby.....

just because YOU like to be dry and comfortable in no way makes you a good representative.. for example.. right there you are cleary NOT representing the community very well as you just pointed out most people didn't care about your post... so dry and comfrotable... great that you enjoy it..

dont knock on those of us who done, or those of us who come to ABDL sites for something other than diaper reviews....

[belinda_sue_fox]

Wait..what...so if it's under seventeen hours i have to say i'm wet sloppy stinky and flies follow me around? After that and i'm clean and everyone who smells is a freak?

Or is it the other way around? No it's i'm always wonderful and you lot are always stinky no matter the time. of reply.

[Honeywell6180]

I guess you're right. I'm not representing the community, because I'm really not ABDL. I am autistic, and diapers are among the tools I need to keep some parts of it managed, and under my control so I can be productive. But at the same time, I have seen the ABDL community help with a lot of the innovation seen with many of the adult products out there today. People made fun of the thought of diapers that use a single tape on each side for adults, then a company called ABUniverse came out with one. And, the nay Sayers were put to shame, because the system they designed works. No more need for a 50-tape, green plastic grandma garment that so many ignorant people were so excited about. Customer demand from the ABDL community is what also brought about the premium lines such as Molicare, Abena, Secure X-Plus, and finally Bambino. It leads to innovation, and at the same time customer satisfaction. It created a windfall for many folks with medical needs, because now they finally have products they can choose from instead of some idiot's idea of what an adult should wear.

And it's much of that product research, that brings me to places like this. But you know something else? You really don't have to keep me here if you don't want to. But, the moderators assured me that I am here to stay. And as long as I am here, I will do what I can to answer any questions about my experiences with specific products, to help others who have to go through similar experiences as mine. Sorry folks, but you're stuck with me regardless.

[sarah_ab]

lol and this is not to be argumentative.. but actually the one tapes dont' work that well for many body types... i know as a woman w/ hips most adult diapers are awfully designed anyway.. and assume all people are straight rectangles.. but even worse with the one tape.. and abuniverse only made those to cater to adult babies.. they weren't made for people who buy for need, but were made because they look more babyish.... so really ab's still have had no influence on the acutaly adult incontinence world, but rather on a fetish product....

I wasn't upste with you being here, but rather with your stating that people who did not respond to your review of a specific pull up product immediately were stupid.... and implying that those people who enjoy being in a wet and messy diaper were somehow inferior....

[Honeywell6180]

Well, no, it wasn't the lack of response to a post I made on the Medline product. But rather, my beef was with those who do unhealthy things with these products. It is not healthy to stick a foreign object up one's rectum, that shouldn't be there. What if someone did this, and tore the lining of their colon? Then it's strait to the emergency room, and PRAY for recovery!

[sarah_ab]

hmm i have butt plugs in my bum often... never had an problem.. never been to the er.. nothing but pleasure....

i see your point, putting food up there could be dangerous..

but your approach was nothing like this.. you approach came off completely different than what you just said....

[WBDaddy]

Honestly, I'm not sure I can name one. Most descend and just don't come back. Fetlife is "clean," but that's specifically because it is fissioned and the HNGs can find their own board, whereas the rest of us who want to avoid them like the plague can be elsewhere where they can't annoy us or perv on us.

Probably one of the most hated "pockets" in this entire community - ADISC - you can accuse them of a LOT of things, but tolerating HNG's, stealth pedos, etc. just doesn't happen there.

[Leilin]

Probably one of the most hated "pockets" in this entire community - ADISC - you can accuse them of a LOT of things, but tolerating HNG's, stealth pedos, etc. just doesn't happen there.

I patently disagree with that assessment.

ABDL community is what also brought about the premium lines such as Molicare, Abena, Secure X-Plus,

What on earth gave you that idea?

[WBDaddy]

I patently disagree with that assessment.

Elaborate?

[Leilin]

Elaborate?

Moderators watching and refusing to act on minors in sexual relationships on the site, trolls, and other various things. Not pedophilia, but still a fair degree of hypocrisy.

[WBDaddy]

Moderators watching and refusing to act on minors in sexual relationships on the site, trolls, and other various things. Not pedophilia, but still a fair degree of hypocrisy.

They actually banned the biggest troll there for a year. In fact, his ban is due to be up sometime in July, if I recall correctly.

I have no idea what you're talking about regarding minors in sexual relationships on the site. They are very, very vigilant about sexual content of any kind on the forums - it's not tolerated. If you're talking about the chatroom, then that's a whole other story. I never log onto chatrooms anywhere - not enough opportunity for thoughtful discussion when the conversation changes direction 500 times a minute. That said, minors in sexual relationships with other minors isn't the problem - it's the adults in sexual relationships with minors.

[Leilin]

If you're talking about the chatroom, then that's a whole other story.

I am, and when they are allowing adults input on those relationships, it is certainly a problem. Voyuerism of minors in sex acts (yes, even cyber ones) should be unacceptable.

I am speaking solely from my personal experience here, for the record. They may have improved in the 2 years since I left, but if the same people are still in charge, I doubt it, and considering their other dubious elements, I have no desire to find out.

[WBDaddy]

Well, in the year and a half I've been there, the biggest gripe I've heard from former members is usually the hair-trigger they have on banning questionable profiles.

[BitterGrey]

there's articles on wikipedia even that give a much milder and less sensational version than what is on shows like Taboo

I fear that I've spent too much time on Wikipedia to buy this lightly. One source (Cantor, Blanchard, and Barbaree) is cited nine times in the infantilism article. It includes the text "...infantilism [is] an autoerotic form of pedophilia." The article used to say this before the relevant section was weasel-worded.

Since this fringe theory is only supported by one group of authors, it lacks the independent support necessary for inclusion. Of course, this policy doesn't enforce itself, and I'm alone there, easily outnumbered.

To avoid negativity, we don't need to go into which is worse. However, we can make Wikipedia better.