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#1 DailyDi

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Posted 14 September 2009 - 07:11 PM

As we continue to grow I'm thinking it's about time we begin to construct a set of rules and promises - both for [DD] to follow, and for members to follow.


Here is what I know should be included for the site's part:

  • DailyDiapers will not sell your personal information to anyone, anytime, ever.
  • We will respect your privacy and not reveal identifying information except where required by law.
  • We will not drastically change our free community style (You won't log-in tomorrow and find we've become a pay site.)
  • We do not create fake profiles to attract members. (some sites have thousands of phony female profiles to get people to join.)
  • All contests and giveaways will be genuine and fair. ( some sites have fake contests.)
  • We will take all reasonable steps to keep children and offensive material out of the site to provide you with a safe environment.
  • We will not subject you to offensive advertising (No hardcore porn ads.)
So, what else should I promise you. And as members of the community what do you think your responsibilities are?
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Posted 14 September 2009 - 07:47 PM

That's very admirable. For one, we, the users, should probably do most of the follow:

  • User Responsibility
  • I will be an active member
  • I will be polite in chat
  • I will post in the proper area
  • I will not post while intoxicated
  • I will not post offensive material
  • I will not post copyright material for which I do not own the copyright
  • I will refrain from personal attacks
  • I will know the difference between differing opinions and personal attacks
  • I will not do anything to embarrass the community or Daily Diapers

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Posted 14 September 2009 - 08:34 PM

+1 to both posts from me :)

Although posting while (mildly!) intoxicated is sometimes fun. I'm certainly a little less reserved after a drink or two :beer:
Posting whilst smashed out of your skull = bad idea though, of course...
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Posted 14 September 2009 - 08:48 PM

I like both posts.
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Posted 14 September 2009 - 09:11 PM

That's very admirable. For one, we, the users, should probably do most of the follow:

  • I will not post while intoxicated



Seriously I can't promise that I won't post while intoxicated!! LOL!!! Sorry. Everything else I can abide by.

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Posted 14 September 2009 - 10:00 PM

  • I will not harass someone for shopping in-store, wearing Depends, or being unable to order online.
  • I will not harass someone for not using their diapers.

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Posted 15 September 2009 - 03:56 AM

DailyDi and BoTox both have a good set of rules in which I know I would be content following. They appropriately protect all parties, and honestly, I don't think there's any more I could add, as all the important stuff was touched on.
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 04:26 AM


Very nice DailyDi Thank You!
I'm very happy to agree BoTox!
(+1 for each!)

I say that at some point this should be released as a set of T&C or 'user agreement' or whatever.... and maybe that some date all users should agree to accept them or choose to leave, this is in my experience the right way to introduce such a change.

I'd just like to say that use of offensive language such as telling some one to **** Off is not polite!

The use of offensive language should not be restricted as such, after all we are an adult community and some times there is no other way to really say what you mean... but using it against someone else is just not ok!


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Posted 15 September 2009 - 05:47 AM

I like them expect these..

•I will be an active member

you can't demand this of a member of the forums, you will also have to define what an active member is? is it posting? then it that case that means you've gotten rid of almost a 3rd of this community.

How active do you want us to be? I'm sorry but i've put this rule in several of my community's and lost members because of it, they felt they were forced to be on there which took the enjoyment out, also whos moderating the activity of each and every member? Your giving the admins a full time job just for doing that.

•I will refrain from personal attacks

I agree up to a certern point, I believe that what you conisder personal attacks may not be considered by the next person, how about changing it to respecting each other instead?

•I will know the difference between differing opinions and personal attacks

Not many people actully know the difference when its about them or somthing the've posted they'll see it as an attack on them. I myself have taken an opinion of a poster as an personal attack upon me.

I will not do anything to embarrass the community or Daily Diapers

This would be a bit hard to moderate wouldn't it? again I'd put somthing like 'i'll show respect for DD and the community.

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Posted 15 September 2009 - 06:09 AM

Saya, I agree that these would be hard to define carefully and then police. On the other hand, I don't think Daily Di or the mods are going to be bouncing anyone off the site for not posting enough.

I think the suggestions made are very good suggestions that we ought to work toward. I myself paused when I read 'will not post when intoxicated' since I've had a time or two when I came on the site after having quite a few. That isn't necessarily the point. Any guidelines can be nitpicked to death. While your intent is understandable, Saya, I'd relax a little. Let's try to go with the spirit of these statements and not worry about how the letter would be carried out. Daily Di and Botox have solid suggestions. Yvhuce had two additions, based largely I think on some recent posts. While they have validity, you could continue to add specific guidelines to answer specific behaviors.

One big problem with starting rules, bylaws, laws, etc is that once you start, you can get caught up in changes and additions based on infractions, slights, hurts or even major outrageous behaviors. Usually these behaviors are covered in the spirit of the original agreements but the individual then tries to weasel based on strict, technical interpretations. I don't think we need to get that way here. Let's just be safe, fair and reasonable.

The original posts (Di and Botox) are pretty good starts. There may be some additions or refinements that we could make, but face it - the site has survived this long without them - to come up with some reasonable statements isn't going to make things worse.





I like them expect these..


you can't demand this of a member of the forums, you will also have to define what an active member is? is it posting? then it that case that means you've gotten rid of almost a 3rd of this community.

How active do you want us to be? I'm sorry but i've put this rule in several of my community's and lost members because of it, they felt they were forced to be on there which took the enjoyment out, also whos moderating the activity of each and every member? Your giving the admins a full time job just for doing that.

I agree up to a certern point, I believe that what you conisder personal attacks may not be considered by the next person, how about changing it to respecting each other instead?

Not many people actully know the difference when its about them or somthing the've posted they'll see it as an attack on them. I myself have taken an opinion of a poster as an personal attack upon me.

This would be a bit hard to moderate wouldn't it? again I'd put somthing like 'i'll show respect for DD and the community.



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Posted 15 September 2009 - 07:36 AM

The use of offensive language should not be restricted as such, after all we are an adult community and some times there is no other way to really say what you mean...


I don't fully agree here. While cussing for emphasis is effective, it isn't the only way to say what you mean Posted Image and it can be toned down without loss of context. I've been told here to "get lost" and I wasn't offended- but when someone here told me to "F... off" using the entire word I was offended Posted Image Both mean the same thing but one is an expression of hate and should not be tolerated Posted Image Where to draw the line? I don't know but if it's plain that hatefulness was intended there is a problem.

About the "I will be an active member" part I disagree (though I'm pretty active)Posted Image A lot of people prefer to be quiet and there's nothing wrong with that.


Where Botox says: "I will know the difference between differing opinions and personal attacks. I will not do anything to embarrass the community or Daily Diapers"

I agree, yet there's some gray area in here Posted Image A certain irascible, contrary, and extremely negative long-time member here makes it a point to attack anyone with a differing view rather personally- even to the point of calling the other person stupid. It's not my place to kick this person out but I think it needs to happen. Since this is not the norm from most members I can put up with a little of this http://www.dailydiapers.com/board/public/style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif because this less-than-nice person is making themself the best possible argument against their way of thinking- anyone with an open mind can plainly see why you shouldn't think or be like this person at all http://www.dailydiapers.com/board/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif I like the way Saya put it about simply respecting each other and I try to do that- I hope I'm doing that well. Saya also notes that some people can't discern between disagreement and personal attacks. That is an easy task- all you have to do is read carefully and see if they argue the concept or if they argue the person. Respectful debate is a good thing- personal attacks aren't. If you can't argue the concept alone you don't yet know enough about it to make a valid point. There's not really anything you can do about someone who willingly smears this site or us people except ban them from here. All you can do in know that most of the time people who whine about mistreatment brought it upon themselves, and in the rare cases where they didn't it's easy to figure out that someone else has a problem- then you simply avoid them and their problem!

About not posting while intoxicated- Well I'm against being intoxicated but that is a personal choice so do as you like. Just don't use your intoxication as an excuse for any misdeeds you do- drunk, sober or whatever you are responsible for everything you say or do period. Intoxication is no excuse because it doesn't change what has happened. If you can't be respectful when you're drunk then stay away from here till you sober up. If you know you can't control yourself while intoxicated then expect someone else to control you then- if you get banned fron here because of this you darn well deserved it and you'll get no sympathy from me http://www.dailydiapers.com/board/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif


We shouldn't need rules to live by but since there will always be people who don't want to consider that we're all in this world together without a choice in the matter then become a necessity. Overall DailyDiapers is as well-run a message board as I've ever found. Common sense, tolerance, and respect are the norm here and nobody gets chased off unless they do something that well deserves it. That's why I http://www.dailydiapers.com/board/public/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif this place!

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Posted 15 September 2009 - 09:08 AM

User Responsibility

I will be an active member


Can't force people to come here. What about the binge/purge (or ebb/flow) cycle, eh?

I will be polite in chat


People's definitions of polite can differ. I get and agree with the general gist of it though.

I will post in the proper area


Agreed.

I will not post while intoxicated


LOL, can't stop people, dude.

I will not post offensive material


Offensive can differ from person to person. For example, "diaper sex" offends me. Should I demand that that not be posted about? No. I just don't read that stuff.


Continued next post because it wouldn't let me quote each point individually...

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hehe...i can see it now "yeah, my interwebz are connected with high-quality bran"

 

 

 

If the average person read this post, would they think it was written by a kindergartner who had just snorted six pounds of Adderall and typed it as they found their first porno magazine while shooting up heroin and sitting on a rollercoaster?

 

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Posted 15 September 2009 - 09:09 AM

I will not post copyright material for which I do not own the copyright


I semi-agree. I think copyrighted things can be used with permission/credit to the creator.

I will refrain from personal attacks


The definition of "personal attack" can differ.

I will know the difference between differing opinions and personal attacks


Okay, so how is the difference defined?

I will not do anything to embarrass the community or Daily Diapers


"I will not do anything to embarrass the community"...This is all kinds of vague. Going out in a diaper under clothing is too embarrassing for some members, but for others, not so much, for example. So how do we know "what not to do"? Personally I think this should just mean not going and lying to get a nurse to change you or anything illegal.

~ moogle

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When a watch goes ill, it is not enough to move the hands; you must set the regulator. When a man does ill, it is not enough to alter his handiwork, you must regulate his heart. ~ Augustus William Hare and Julius Charles Hare, Guesses at Truth, by Two Brothers, 1827

 

 

hehe...i can see it now "yeah, my interwebz are connected with high-quality bran"

 

 

 

If the average person read this post, would they think it was written by a kindergartner who had just snorted six pounds of Adderall and typed it as they found their first porno magazine while shooting up heroin and sitting on a rollercoaster?

 

The fundamental job of a toddler is to rule the world. ~ Unknown


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Posted 15 September 2009 - 09:10 AM

Sorry for the 3x post, but I just saw Bettypooh's post and I have to say bravo.

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hehe...i can see it now "yeah, my interwebz are connected with high-quality bran"

 

 

 

If the average person read this post, would they think it was written by a kindergartner who had just snorted six pounds of Adderall and typed it as they found their first porno magazine while shooting up heroin and sitting on a rollercoaster?

 

The fundamental job of a toddler is to rule the world. ~ Unknown


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Posted 15 September 2009 - 10:40 AM

How about not bashing the TLGBs?
That needs to be one of the rules!

"I like DD despite the transgendered"
Yeah, that needs to stop. Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals, Transgendered, queer, yeah, hey are all my community and I am tired of seeing posts putting us down!
Same for any other minority.



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Posted 15 September 2009 - 03:50 PM

How about just being a decent human being and enjoying the forum? Rules are really only needed when the solve more problems than they create.

I haven't seen any problems on the forum, but I haven't been here long enough or read enough posts to state it with certainty.

It seems like a pretty decent place so far.

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Posted 15 September 2009 - 04:10 PM

How about just being a decent human being and enjoying the forum?


Quote of the day, imo.

~ moogle

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When a watch goes ill, it is not enough to move the hands; you must set the regulator. When a man does ill, it is not enough to alter his handiwork, you must regulate his heart. ~ Augustus William Hare and Julius Charles Hare, Guesses at Truth, by Two Brothers, 1827

 

 

hehe...i can see it now "yeah, my interwebz are connected with high-quality bran"

 

 

 

If the average person read this post, would they think it was written by a kindergartner who had just snorted six pounds of Adderall and typed it as they found their first porno magazine while shooting up heroin and sitting on a rollercoaster?

 

The fundamental job of a toddler is to rule the world. ~ Unknown


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Posted 15 September 2009 - 04:52 PM

Answering the original question: "What do you think your responsibilities are..."

In the most realistic sense... I don't think that we have any other than contributing to the site.

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 04:23 PM

DD, i do agree especially as this site has become so large and is continuing to grow on a daily basis, that DD as an entity should have a community policy.


however i am vehemently apposed to any sort of 'user' agreement that stipulates what we can and cannot post, except when certain material is considered illegal by the host state/country of the website, in this case the USA.


While i have my own personal opinoins on what i WISH people would post, and what forums i wish they would post them in and how i wish everyone would just agree with everything i say, i have no right to claim that people should not be allowed to state their opinoins, even if that upsets another member.

While i do not think it is right, or nice, or kind for people to be mean and hurtful intentionally, i have no right to tell them what the can and cannot say.

I do not think a user agreement should stipulate behavior, except what is explicitly prohibited by the law. Any other user agreement would be allowing certain people's opinoins to dominate the bulletin boards.
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 07:06 PM

DD, i do agree especially as this site has become so large and is continuing to grow on a daily basis, that DD as an entity should have a community policy.


however i am vehemently apposed to any sort of 'user' agreement that stipulates what we can and cannot post, except when certain material is considered illegal by the host state/country of the website, in this case the USA.


While i have my own personal opinoins on what i WISH people would post, and what forums i wish they would post them in and how i wish everyone would just agree with everything i say, i have no right to claim that people should not be allowed to state their opinoins, even if that upsets another member.

While i do not think it is right, or nice, or kind for people to be mean and hurtful intentionally, i have no right to tell them what the can and cannot say.

I do not think a user agreement should stipulate behavior, except what is explicitly prohibited by the law. Any other user agreement would be allowing certain people's opinoins to dominate the bulletin boards.


So... by your point of view, coming here and bashing the LGBTs is supposed to be ok? Even if it upsets me?
I come here to escape what upsets me. I think letting everyone post anything is a bit much. I still vote for banning bashing.



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