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[Goden]

Music! Nooo, nooo! Music ruins it!

When the women sounds like she's being tortured (Screaming at the top of her lungs, this usually means the video is fake) - I prefer soft pleasure-moans.

People who can't hold a camera! Both video and still-picture!

[Knuxie Fawks]

Sex. Yuck!

But I like George Carlin's answer (He'll live in infamy). Sorry for the language, as I'm quoting (from memory). "It starts off with a hot naked woman who starts playing with herself. And as she's playing with herself, she kinda becomes your girlfriend. Then walks in some guy with a big dick and he starts fucking my girlfriend...pisses me off."

Also, seeing those movies makes me feel inadequate, which I find upsetting. I'm not that big. I have tried "jacking off" having no luck and leaving myself rather sore. As strange as it sounds, sex does not appeal to me. It does not turn me on. In fact, I'm a bit put off by it.

These are my feelings, and I do not intend to criticize or offend anyone here, and I'm deeply sorry if I do.

[ABDLboyy88]

<!--quoteo(post=197766:date=Apr 19 2009, 07:44 AM:name=BabyJune)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BabyJune @ Apr 19 2009, 07:44 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=197766"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->If you are talking about the BUSINESS of porn, the women that participate are getting paid to make movies and to perform. Everyday women do not like to be looked at as "sex toys." They want to be appreciated for their knowledge--not just one part of their bodies.

I don't know how much the women in the porno flicks "enjoy" the sex, but I'm sure they enjoy the money.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

That's a very generalized statement. Some women are as you describe, but not all. Not even a majority is my guess. Too many women walking around dressing as sexy as possible, because they want to be appreciated for their body as much as any other part of themselves. There is a show on Discovery called the Science of Sex Appeal that you should watch. They go through a whole bunch of scientific studies and show what men and women really want in the opposite sex and how they go about getting it.

The funniest part was when they showed the results of a test they did with thousands of women. They took photos of various men and printed them out on cards and asked thousands of women to rate the men from 1 to 10(10 being best). These scores were averaged out to determine the man's attractiveness. Next, they printed employment and salaries for the men on the same photos and repeated the test. This time, the men with better jobs and higher salary scored much higher and the men with mundane jobs and low salary scored much lower. I'm not talking about a minor difference either. Men that were rated 4 based on just photos suddenly became 9s when the women saw they were CEOs with a $300k/year salary. Men that were rated 9s and 10s based on photos alone suddenly became 4s when it was printed they work at McDonalds.

This isn't to say women are gold diggers. It just shows what's important to women, regardless of what they claim is important. Before modern society, women had to worry about raising children. It's hard to gather food while holding a baby, so women are predisposed to finding a mate that can take care of them and their children. It's not easy to fight nature.

HAHA nice...
As for me, what I hate about porn is how some just take forever to actually get to sex. I've seen vids that have gone like 5+ minutes before any clothes are taken off! And I agree, music and screaming ruin the vid. I also rather hear pleasure moans.

[zdravo]

Porn? I do not like it at all. I think any kind of porn is disgusting and i really do not understand why people like that stuff.

[BabyBat]

I hate the freakin' high heals. I don't understand why they think that every woman must be in high heals. Even in real life this will turn me off something awful.

But I am also weird, put them in a pair of knee socks and mary janes and I am good to go! (Gee I wonder if that could be related to another one of my fetishes?)

has anyone seen any baby berlin videos (from babydoll)? She is fantastic!

[Goden]

I hate the freakin' high heals. I don't understand why they think that every woman must be in high heals. Even in real life this will turn me off something awful.

But I am also weird, put them in a pair of knee socks and mary janes and I am good to go! (Gee I wonder if that could be related to another one of my fetishes?)

has anyone seen any baby berlin videos (from babydoll)? She is fantastic!

I hate high heels too.

[PampersPete]

Porn? I do not like it at all. I think any kind of porn is disgusting and i really do not understand why people like that stuff.

What are ya? Some sort of gay communist?

[BabyBat]

I hate high heels too.

Do you like anything in their place? Personally when a woman wears sneakers without socks (or no show socks) it drives me as nuts as high heals do for most guys.

Example (WARNING, Contains Nudity, do NOT open if you will be offended):
http://files DOT getdropbox DOT com/u/405658/pics/noel163.jpg

[zdravo]

What are ya? Some sort of gay communist?

lol i'm a 19 year old straight guy(Well asexual i think), i just dont understand it

[BabyBat]

lol i'm a 19 year old straight guy(Well asexual i think), i just dont understand it

Asexual? As in you are not gay but you are not interested in women either?

[zdravo]

Asexual? As in you are not gay but you are not interested in women either?

Yeah. At least...not yet. I don't know why either. I'm just too weird i guess. Is there something wrong with me???

[momma.bear]

Please explain how porn is "demeaning" to women. laugh.gif This should be good for a few laughs.

well, i don't think anyone should have to explain that, since feminist scholars have been writing about it since the 90s.

regardless of individual women, most academics/scholars/intellectuals who have researched & written about it have agreed to at least the idea that on a systemic level, porn often is demeaning to women & creates discursive space for further objectification & abuse of women, as well as creating unrealistic expectations for sexual performance. but again, that's a systemic problem, not necessarily a problem of any one woman.

it is definitely true that many women who work in porn do so because they enjoy the lifestyle. but the discourse we participate in, as well as the media we consume, effects our reality. no, we shouldn't get rid of it or censor it, or whatever, but we do need to be careful in our consideration of its possible effects.

[PampersPete]

For all the women out there who are offended by their own sexuality,I present to you,this gift from us men who fuck you ladies just that much harder up your ass...

[momma.bear]

For all the women out there who are offended by their own sexuality,I present to you,this gift from us men who fuck you ladies just that much harder up your ass...

offended by our own sexuality? what? i'm not offended by my sexuality; i'm offended by people who abuse, use, & manipulate women. i'm offended by people who, instead of taking a woman's sexuality into account, instead of wanting to give her the pleasure she is giving him (or her), instead fucks her just that much harder up her ass.

no "offense", but you sort of sound like an ignorant asshole.

i never said that porn was inherently bad, nor did i say that many women don't enjoy watching or participating in it. but without a doubt, if we as a society are inundated with images/video of women being used & objectified, those very things become normalized.

then again, that's just what the leading scholars in media studies & communication studies say about it - & hey, what do people paid to think/research know?

[PampersPete]

First off,that wasn't directed to you personally. Second,objectify and use women? Unless someone is watching a snuff film or a rape video,nobody is using anyone. We ALL have choices in life. Any woman who doesn't like watching porn HAS to be offended by their own sexuality. I'll discuss this more later.

[momma.bear]

Unless someone is watching a snuff film or a rape video,nobody is using anyone.

well, if porn objectifies a woman - that is, reduces her to a sexual object for a man's pleasure - then yeah, that's using her.

you seem to think i'm talking about the individual women who actually star in porn. i'm not. while many sex workers (both men & women) are abused or taken advantage of, i recognize that porn stars are making a choice to be involved in that work, & i respect it.

i'm talking about the systemic issues that are both created in/through & create the porn industry as it stands. most scholars use the sapir-whorf hypothesis to relate to this issue, as well as philosophers michel foucault (who writes about discourse & sexuality) & louis althusser (who talks about interpellation into dominant systems of discourse).

but again, i'm just relating what people say who get paid to be smart.

Any woman who doesn't like watching porn HAS to be offended by their own sexuality.

actually, no. porn is made & marketed mostly for MEN.
it has very little (if anything at all) to do with female sexuality.

but like i said before, a lot of women DO like to watch porn. i'm one of them. in the right context, porn can be very hot. but that doesn't mean that i can't enjoy it & also understand how it functions in society.

nothing is either good or bad absolutely. it's more nuanced than that.

[babykeiff]

Is there something wrong with me - I don't have any interest in watching porn - the actors are amature, as is the plot, and the set. I'd prefer participate (if I could believe that is somewhat real) than ideally watch someone else. Even in a real situation, I have no interest watching another couple 'playing'. My wife asked me to video a couple of our experiences... which I did, but after she watched them, I deleted them. I get no enjoyment watching my wife and I doing something - but I do enjoy remembering the situation. I am about the tactile feelings, and watching the event is boring to me.

[PampersPete]

Here's a quick question-Can you guys name the gender who produces the most porn flicks? I'll make it a bit easier by making it multiple choice...

A-Men
B-Women

Now think this question through. It COULD be a trick question. Or maybe not.

[LockedNMessed]

if it involves diapers, the big "no's" for me are:

1. European accents. They say a few words all in all, and most of them are "yar"
2. Dont look so suprised. Yes darling, you messed yourself... now dont pull that stupid face when you take your diaper off.
3. I cant wet myself so lets sit on a toilet and do it. Seriously, just learn to wet naturally!
4. the stupid smirk they give when rubbing their diaper. yes you like it, we do too, just make it less fake!
5. cutting off the film when revealing messes. we all know you didnt REALLY mess, stop making it look like ya did!
6. Bad bad bad storylines. Dont even try em. "Puuuut on vour diapar" in a thick accent and the fake "no!!!" is just horrible.

What You should do:

1. dont use damn porn actors. normal people come across more genuine.
2. a little less stereotypical, a little more down to earth.
3. and lets see you STAY in those messes you make. dont just take it off after 1 minute

[Goden]

if it involves diapers, the big "no's" for me are:

1. European accents. They say a few words all in all, and most of them are "yar"
2. Dont look so suprised. Yes darling, you messed yourself... now dont pull that stupid face when you take your diaper off.
3. I cant wet myself so lets sit on a toilet and do it. Seriously, just learn to wet naturally!
4. the stupid smirk they give when rubbing their diaper. yes you like it, we do too, just make it less fake!
5. cutting off the film when revealing messes. we all know you didnt REALLY mess, stop making it look like ya did!
6. Bad bad bad storylines. Dont even try em. "Puuuut on vour diapar" in a thick accent and the fake "no!!!" is just horrible.

What You should do:

1. dont use damn porn actors. normal people come across more genuine.
2. a little less stereotypical, a little more down to earth.
3. and lets see you STAY in those messes you make. dont just take it off after 1 minute

I agree.

I actually want to see the diaper wearer to look like they actually are genuinely enjoying themselves.