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KINS 6 mil

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I've been using the tuffy's for a couple years now and I think they are great. Under pants, jeans, etc they become almost completely silent. I've never had anyone give me a strange look at all.

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Comco is as good and longer at the sides and you do not have to "get used" to the graininess, which I never have

http://www.dailydiapers.com/board/index.php?showtopic=28151

I understand that the difference between smooth and grainy material is in the rollers, called, I believe, "calenders", that make the material into sheets. The ones used to make the smooth sheeting are of higher quality. Many baby panty labels like BabyMates had panties made of both smooth and grainy materials and the smooth mateial ones cost about 20-30 cents more.

Material thickness, or "gauge" is imortant. Thinner material loses it's suppoleness faster. I have Commcos that are over 10 years old. The material is pretty good. It is the elastics that died. In the early 1970's they came out with a thin smooth plastic for some uses. This was a result of a sharp rise in the price of the material. This was tolerable because pampers (the generic name for throw-aways, along wiht "paper") were becoming prominent and the panties were not the only waterproof item. Also there became fewer children per family so baby things just did not have to be as durable. However there were still companies using thick, sturdy material BabyMates were being sold in the middle 1980' Empire was smooth but not that thick since 1971 when I first saw "Wataseal" instead of "Koroseal" and in 1984 I got some for one of my dollies

An adult would want the thcker materials since she will be using waterproof panties for a longer time and the panties'body is much larger than that of baby panties, so you want more durable material

It would be nice to find a reliable history of waterproof, and especially baby, panties. I am told that the first plastic oncs were homemade due to the shortage of rubber during WWII Also, if I recall aright the earliest plastic panties did not have forward-facing legs Nor were the leg opening as sharply angled upward to the side seams and from what I recall almost not at all anagled. That may hve made it easier, or even possible to turn the legbandds under the diaper although I never heard of turning the waist and legbands under the diaper before I was in DPF and never saw it in real life. Similar Adult panties would be about 14" long at the saam like two "rear"s put together and a very wide crotch, maby about 13-13" and baby panties were called "baby bloomers". Diapers came up above the navel

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What do you mean by grainy?? Does it feel like a light grit sandpaper? I remember the old VIP panties had a texture feel on the outside.. Is it like that??

Ecactly in regards to the Kins. And on some plastic items, not that fine or light a grit and we used to describe it as "like sandpaper"
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