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    • This week I’m down to my last case of “free” Abena L4.  Just another month or three and I’m actually going to have to start buying some nappies for around the house on weekends.  Of course the great tragedy of the Abena L4 is that there are not so much an “around my house” nappy as an “around my ankles” one: such is their egregious sagginess and general preoccupation with gravity.  It’s a great shame.  The nappy core on the Abena is super-comfortable (despite a mild predilection for disintegration) and it’s generally reasonably absorbent as well.  Nice nappies, shame about the shape shifting. Anyway, on Saturday evening, I slid down my plastic pants only to have my soggy-but-far-from-soaked Abena slide down my thighs in sympathy (I was about to change myself anyway) and I pondered that how as a species, we could develop a probe (nearly 50 years ago) that has made it all the way into interstellar space and yet we are unable to design a cost-effective adult nappy that stays put after somebody pees in it.  Sure, I accept that ABDL nappies generally speaking do a much better job but they’re still not NASA standard and in any case, nobody in a care facility gets treated to a Rearz “Barnyard” anyway. I got to thinking. In my early phases of Einsteinian reflection, I wondered if the problem might not be less, well, problematic if wicking (a perennial shortcoming in adult nappies) was improved.  Wicking is what lets nappies disperse inbound pee-load across all of the available absorbent surface.  If wicking is limited, causing pee to pile up at “ground zero” so to speak, in addition to premature product failure (leaks), the localised load can accentuate sagging and stretching (at the triple costs of efficacy, discretion, and staying where you put them).  Are you reading this Abena engineers?).  It did seem that the ‘pee-load’ in my Abena was at least slightly concentrated into a particular zone leading to some asymmetry in the gravitational tug.  My Abenas were sinking down my thighs with as little as 30% of the available absorbent surface area wet.  In my most recent product failure, it was a predominately dry nappy with a kind of potato of wet SAP pulling things down at the front. Sure wicking is a thing but the Abena isn’t as nearly bad at this as some of the more ludicrously-capacity-claimed ABDL product.  The primary problem here is stretch and sag.   I moved on to considering how structural integrity of the nappy might be maintained through the “loading cycle”. I got to thinking about SAP and its propensity to swell when exposed to fluid.  This kind of wetting-induced force and torque got me pondering about patterned SAP sub-structures built into the nappy core that would serve to defend against, and perhaps even counteract sagging as they became wet by reshaping themselves into sag-resistant forms. And then I started googling only to discover that it’s already been done: by Cambridge University no less.   https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/wearable-technologies/article/origamiinspired-systems-that-improve-adult-diaper-performance-to-enhance-user-dignity/EE49123E2F043C7A5F87BF2EAB71B492 It turns out re-engineering the present unstructured SAP core of nappy into “tubes” of SAP permits liquid-activated shaping.  When you wet them, they distort to fit you more closely. Just to ram home their general cleverness, they’d also applied some solid mechanical engineering to the problem of “wicking” (or specifically, the lack thereof).  It turns out that wicking can be radically improved by using folded/overlaid “surge layers” inside the nappy (as opposed to the single layer we see today) for pee dispersal. And because good things come in threes, the nappy-boffins decided to leverage something called “laminar emergent torsion” to create a nappy waistband that “deploys” (like the solar panels on a satellite) to improve fit, flexibility and simplify application.  I guess a nappy that’s easier to put on would be good for people with disabilities but I also imagine that it could play a role in the hands of a drunk ABDL also which for me, is a much less distressing thought.  It’s still something of a tertiary objective. It was nice to know that at least some of my thought bubbles were in fact feasible but I don’t think we’re about to see them appearing in padded products any time soon. Firstly, I expect that nappy making machines are very expensive, very established and very NOT designed to engineer that kind of complexity into extruded pads.  Current manufactured nappy cores are more meat loaf than terrine.  We’d most likely need an entirely new manufacturing infrastructure as well as a manufacturing process and that’s a lot of non-recurrent cost to build a product that would in all likelihood NOT be cheaper. That leads me to my second point.  Adult nappies (medical brands) are overwhelmingly NOT a user-chooser product.  I suspect that their efficacy and comfort takes a back seat to their capacity to win institutional tenders by being the cheapest.  The fact that they don’t work very well is irrelevant.  It’s somebody else’s department to change the wet bedding. So we probably won’t see these scientifically-designed uber-nappies but it’s nice to know that metaphorically at least, nappies are a product you CAN engineer the crap out of (at least metaphorically until nano-bots go mainstream) and it isn’t rocket science. Elon Musk might build them though.  He’s a bit like that…
    • Libby blushed going really red as she was carried into the kitchen and noticed the high chair. “I don’t need to sit in this I’m a big girl please” she said not realizing how cute she must have sounded. once in the high chair she looked around glad none of her friends could see her she had to keep this a secret she would lose her status if she didn’t  she then remembered she had invited her friend over thinking Anya would be out. She started squirming in the chair. “I can feed myself. Can I have my phone please Anya.” She said nicely 
    • @Moochie You're an inspiration. Before the morning's out, I'll be in a very wet & messy cloth diaper.
    • A lot of the cute and childish Kawaii clothes appeal to me as a little 🥰 Unfortunately, Kawaii clothing providers are becoming more and more vanilla and mainstream. The selection and amount of cute and childish kawaii clothes are unfortunately getting less and less 😢
    • Larry smiled as he sat right next to her, and heard her stomach. "Well, I ill try to think about it.  But it doesn't change the fact you are a minor, well under eighteen, and still need rules, okay miss?" He smiled as the bus stopped, and he got up and reached his hand around to direct her by holding her arm. "Sweetheart, you are still scared," he told her.  "You might not realize it, but only a fool would not be scared in your situation.  You still don't know what is going to happen tomorrow, and you would be wise to keep your guard up.  I know I'm a good person, but you have no way to know that." He led her off of the bus. "That's why you are scared, still.  But you do know where you can get food, and so of course, it would be natural that you stay close as long as you can get food without doing things that seem harmful or scary to you."
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