Explain Caths For Newb

[wolverine0012000]

OK want to try a cath overnite. im a total newb to caths so school me.

[rickibrat2]

do not the risk of infection is a pain

[incondl]

do not the risk of infection is a pain

Ditto that!!! Its just not worth the risk. Cath only if it is necessary!

[moliman87]

Yeah infection is a big problem.

The pain side of things I don't mind! (Sadist!)

The feeling when inserting is very surreal.

I don't find them that painful inserting or removing, the worst pain is when you have to pee after removing the cath.

I have tried a few sizes, CH12, 14, 16 and 18. The 14 and 16 worked the best.

The 18 was not problem inserting but when I removed it there was a bit of bleeding which scared the hell out of me!

I think I will be staying away from them for a while now.

If you do insist on trying them out then you must be careful with infections, there are a few good sites out there that explain all that as well as some videos on you tube!

I wouldn't start out by leaving it in overnight but start with it in for a few hours then increase the amount of time gradually.

Never reuse a cath! That's one rule you will hear over and over again.

Good Luck!

[beallucanb]

The one thing people do not realize is that the cath, has to be completly grem free, and this includes your hands, that is why the nurses wear the rubber gloves, and they have to be gloves that are streile, not just out of a box of rubber gloves, they are specialy packed gloves.

I think they hurt like hell going in, but thats just me, I would just rather piss in my diaper alot like I do now.

[moliman87]

I think they hurt like hell going in, but thats just me, I would just rather piss in my diaper alot like I do now.

Hi beallucanb,

Just out of curiosity, did you cath yourself or was it a nurse?

[InD]

I love catheters. The feeling of absolute no control for a few hours (or couple of days max) is exciting and a rush.

I have been exploring catheter play for almost twenty years now. I've had a few infections over that time (less than ten) and never had any blood or such. I do not find there is any real pain either. I've said this before, but it's worth repeating. When a nurse cath's a patient she has a couple of dozen other things to do and multiple patients to deal with. While the nurse will be professional and medically safe she just isn't going to be as slow or careful as you will be on yourself. Especially since you are controlling the cath as it goes in.

On the flip side, yeah there is risk of infection. There is risk of injury if you don't know what you are doing.

So for me, I *know* the risk and accept them. As long as you know what you are getting yourself into and know what you are doing, then don't let anyone else tell you what to do.

InD

[underwhere]

I'm going to echo the advice so far, and basically say "don't do it."

Myself, I had some surgery a few years ago, and because I was to be under anesthesia for such a long period of time, they cathed me. I have no idea what it felt like going in (I was already anesthetized and out cold) but coming out, I can tell you it hurt real bad for a short period of time afterward. Also, once it came out, I was unable to pee for a period of time (I'd been warned about that) but eventually, when I did, I had no control at least for that first time. I suppose you could say I was medically incontinent at that time. They gave me a giant jug to pee into, and it lasted for quite a while. I was told this was to be expected, and indeed, I regained control after that first pee.

While it was in, the feeling was a bit strange when I had to pee. I've never really felt anything else I can compare it to. However, I, personally, would not do it again unless it was medically necessary. Most certainly, I would not recommend anybody else do it without the proper training and attention to hygiene/germs/and whatever other nasty things it would be REALLY bad to forget about.

[shyguydiapered]

I play with catheters on a regular basis. I have used them litterally hundreds of times. The first few times may be uncomfortable but if you go slowly and stay relaxed you should have no pain. You will have a burning sensation while urinating after the catheter is removed. This won't last long. Drink lots of fluids.I have had four infections all of which were my own fault. As long as you are careful and keep the catheter sterile prior to inserting it you won't have any problems.I really enjoy having a catheter and never experience pain. I have used 12fr through 24fr but I usually use a 14fr. It's pretty cool to insert a catheter and put on a diaper and go out shopping. You can feel your diaper getting wet and there is nothing you can do to stop it!

[packrat]

Shyguydiapered, I have a question on the catheter. Do you use a foley or an intermittent? If the latter, how do you keep it in place? I've tried it once only and used Surgilube (spelling might be wrong) that I obtained from a medical supply as a lubricant. To those experimenting, this must be done with great care. There are good websites instructing on the insertion.

[shyguydiapered]

I use a Foley.

[anondl]

I haven't cathed in a long time but when I did it I enjoyed it a lot. With a cath you dribble constantly, not like a baby, dry for awhile then wet. Once the cath is in you are leaking constantly. Its a good idea to pee before cathing otherwise you don't have a chance to get the diaper in place before everything gets wet. I've never had problems with infections but I don't leave the cath in for very long. I've not used a Foley. It seems like quite a contraption with lots of accessories to deal with. I have had the experience of having the cath back out and therefor blocking the uretha. Not good. I'm trying to work out how to keep the eyes of the cath in the bladder without inflating a g-d baloon.

The Treasure Chest in LA sold what I think was infant intermittent caths for a while but quit because it was illegal. Cathing is an "invasive procedure" and no one but a licenced professional may administer invasive procedures (with the exception of Insulin shots, and I suppose enemas).

All this being said, Cleanliness is important! Cathing on a short time basis in a clean environment has not created any problems for me.

Anondl

[Loveable_guy]

As others have said, it MUST BE a sterilized environment or you will get an infection!

To help avoid an infection drink plenty of cranberry juice up to one day after. The acid helps to kill any germs in your bladder.

With that said acatheter is a lot of fun. Just think, you out and about and have absolutely no control of your bladder. Will you make it home or will you have a leak? If you are going to try one while sleeping plan on having a leaks and use a mattress pad.

[packrat]

Surf the web. You can find medical supplies that sell a full line of Caths. Many will require a prescription, but some don't. I'll try to find out where I have ordered my from in the past. But, if you've never tried one, PLEASE read up of visit the medical educational websites on catheter insertion. A screw up could put you in the hospital or worse.....

packrat

[RobJ]

Well, does anybody want to post any links and/or instructions on how to do it, or what products and materials they recommend?

I am especially curious on where the procedure for people in here, for ABDL use, differs from the stated medical procedures. For example, how long one can wear it at max without risk of bladder infection, when using a diaper; and how much of the tubing to leave hanging out of the penis, and how to place it in the diaper.

ShyGuyDiapered says his infections were his fault: how so? I want to know what common pitfalls to avoid, especially the pitfalls that even someone who has done it a bunch falls into.

Also, how do you know you have a bladder infection, and what do you say to your doctor? Can they tell if you've been cathing, because that is something I really don't want to have to explain. I also know that bladder infections can sometimes transfer to your kidneys, but is that something that only happens if you ignore it? If you seek treatment as soon as you notice, all you have to deal with is some burning when you pee, right?

[Loveable_guy]

Would suggest you read up on this subject on web, there is some great information that will answer all of the above questions. Personally I have not had an infection maybe because I drink plenty of cranberry juice when cathing. I understand an infection can be painful and you better get to the docs quickly if you do get an infection. I don’t think having a bladder infection is a dead give away to catheter play. As for the length, once you have one in and inflate the balloon you will have about six inches of tubing depending on the length of your tool. Pull back a little till you feel tension. The balloon will seat it self and seal the bladder. Never allow poop and an open catheter come in contact, never.

Enjoy and remember be clean when playing with catheters.

[curiositykilledthecat]

I'm going out on a limb and just suggest if you want to pee freely, drink lots of water before wearing, and let er rip. I'd highly suggest not using a catheter.

[BoTox]

Let me be a cautionary tale of what NOT to do.

I've been playing with caths for a few years. Something went wrong today and it hurt. I immediately stopped but it was too late. I'm now in a diaper for real because I'm dribbling blood! Nothing bad and nothing permanent but it is the oozy blood like when you skin a knee. It is already clearing up but it hurt and it is inconvenient when you do NOT want to be confined to a diaper for real!

My sphincter and bladder are fine, no blood in the urine and no control issue, just oozing bleeding out the urethra. There can be strictures from this, scar tissue that blocks the path. You are warned.

Damn! I hate F*#%*ing up! WAY more lube next time!

[Latexman]

Catheters are a fun and erotic way to play, but can also be a source of trouble. This is no different than many other forms of sexual escapades. People routinely wind up in hospital emergency rooms with beer bottles, door knobs and a variety of other things inside their rectum or chemicals in their blood stream, all from "play" that got out of hand.

Caution is VITAL, education is NECESSARY, and good common sense is REQUIRED. The use of catheters can be enjoyable, but as my pal Botox said above, even people used to them can have problems.

The overriding caveat is CLEANLINESS!!!!!!!!!!! i cannot over-emphasize that. If you are going to insert 15" worth of tubing through an opening in your body all the way into your bladder, you do NOT want to insert a bunch of germs along with it. Outside of a doctor's office or hospital, it is hard to be totally sterile, but do your best. Antiseptic wipes around the opening of your urethera (whether you're male or female), wearing and changing pairs of latex gloves, not touching any more of the catheter than you have to, lots of lube and going slow are some key points.

When you insert a catheter (male or female), it will travel a fair distance before you encounter the sphincter muscle at the bladder. You'll know you're there because you'll feel a sudden resistance in the acceptance of the catheter down your urethera. At that point, you should push down with your muscles as you would when you need to pee, and that pushing will open the sphincter, and you can slide it the rest of the way in. i've always used Foley catheters, which have inflatable balloons on the end, because in my experience, a well-lubricated rubber or silicone tube WILL slide back out of you as you move around. So, a small syringe is used to inject sterile water through a port on the catheter to expand the balloon on the inside of the sphincter, so it doesn't slip back out. It is important that if you do not buy a complete kit, but assemble component parts, that you check the size of the reservoir balloon. If it is a 5 cc balloon, you do not want to fill a 15 cc syringe with water and shove it all in there! i've always used slightly less water than the rated size of the catheter; for example, 8 cc will expand a 10 cc balloon large enough that it is not going to come back out.

The fun part of wearing a catheter inside a diaper is that if you've done it correctly, you'll have ABSOLUTELY NO sensation of peeing. You will truly be helplessly wetting as soon as any pee reaches the bladder, which is more "baby-like" than the typical adult diaper wearer who holds it in and lets loose with a big stream in their diaper. Babies just wet constantly, which is what you'll be doing, and you'll find that disposable diapers hold MUCH more fluid when released in smaller, more regular quantities than if you flood your diapers. What you probably will feel is the change in warmth in your diaper whenever pee comes out, but not necessarily.

i've worn catheters for as long as 36 hours several times, and ~48 hours once. During that time, i'm changing diapers and each day, i've taken a shower, using plenty of lathered up soap "down there" to keep the part that is hanging out as clean as possible. You should NOT mix catheter play with the release of an enema in your diaper, however, since that is an open tube that could allow fecal matter to migrate into your bladder. Remember that body fluids from one area do not belong in other areas, and can cause problems if they wind up somewhere else, where they will be treated as a foreign object, even though it came from your own body. If you want a good example of that, the next time you have a large cut on your body, try putting lots of your saliva around the wound. Saliva is not harmful to you when it is in your mouth, but in an open wound, you'll get an infection quicker than you can imagine.

After it is time to bring your catheter play to an end, remember cleanliness in reverse, too. Latex gloves, careful handling and disposal of all of the items you've used is important. As a precaution against infection, many people who regularly play with catheters will routinely drink large quantities of cranberry juice to help ward off UTIs.

The only other warning about catheters is that if you leave them in too long (for example, a few weeks... ) your sphincter muscle could become lazy and lethargic by being held open, resulting in some REAL incontinence after you remove the catheter. i've never personally experienced any true post-catheter loss of control after just a day or so, or heard of it happening, but it is always possible.

Having said all of that, i happen to LOVE the knowledge that i am forcibly being made to wet and that my control has been removed from me. Although with hypnotic conditioning i've achieved some level of that helpless incontinence, a catheter is 100% effective and cannot be resisted, no matter what!

Play smart and have fun!

[Loveable_guy]

Latexman, Well said, a very good write-up

[Latexman]

Latexman, Well said, a very good write-up

Thanks!