Dealing With Severely, Mentally Ill Members

[Kari]

I have Bipolar Disorder.

Even though I see a PhD for "med management" and a Counselor for cognitive therapy I am far from okay.

I am somewhat higher functioning than some but I am on disability in spite.

I sort of get what you say.

Sometimes other Bipolars will drive me crazy. (no pun intended)

It can be because they aren't taking meds or are lower functioning.

I know my love for diapers has really nothing to do with my mental illness.

It's like anything else.

Try to be tolerant if you can.

If I had the choice to loose a leg, for example, and have a healthy mind, I think I'd do it.

That's how bad it gets sometimes.

[sarah_ab]

Do you know of a little thing called reality, where if you behave inappropriately in a public setting, you will either be asked to leave, removed by force or arrested?

yep but i also know that the ada protects me from being removed by force or arrested due to any of that behavior... some of us truely have no control over some of our actions... however... as i've said there is such a thing as a delete button... so that does not apply to the internet.... anyone can delete something, even after they have posted it....

[XxWillowxX]

This thread turned into... I don't know what, but it's funny

you might think its funny, but me and sarah are trying to explain to you that you can't censor or control where people post just because of there issues.

Do you know of a little thing called reality, where if you behave inappropriately in a public setting, you will either be asked to leave, removed by force or arrested?

you asking that question clearly shows you didn't do your research about disabilities before making this thread.

I don't want them banned, just monitored or have their accounts limited almost like it's a posting curfew. Only when behavior improves is when the restrictions on the account are lifted. There's a reward incentive for acting appropriately pursuant to the community rules and guidelines: something we have yet to establish.

then instead of suggesting towards mentally ill or disability people perhaps you should of said 'i'd like the policy to be more stricked on bad behaved peoplee' its not just mentally ill or people with disability's acting bad on here. Are you now suggesting the "normal" people get off easyer then 'us' with there behavior?

[Horndog]

This is my last post of this thread so I'm making this count.

you asking that question clearly shows you didn't do your research about disabilities before making this thread.

I know the ADA, have worked with ADA cases and I've researched disabilities extensively. I've lived with people who have disabilities. I've lived it. Don't make assumptions.

I've come to a clearer understanding about this issue because of the abundance of responses from people. Evidently, people have come to some really wacky conclusions about my suggestions (i.e. banning people simply because they have a mental illness) and these sort of assertions prevent people from talking about these kinds of things openly. I'm more troubled about the responses I've received more than the people I was alluding to in my very first post because people have this grossly ill-conceived definition of tolerance in intolerance -- like limiting one's forum access as a means of weening people off message boards and urging them to seek licensed, psychological counseling is somehow intolerant of their mental illness. One of the underlying principles I applied to my argument is that message boards and communities like these should not be a substitute for therapy because it's all second-rate. It's like trying to diagnose a physical ailment by going to WebMD.com. It just doesn't cut it. And what makes matters worse, several members of these communities tell people who are causing constant disturbances, "It's okay for you to be this way. We accept everyone for who they are," and that sort of open-ended tolerance -- without certain moral stipulations -- can be exploited by people who can and will easily give the AB/DL community a bad name.

Don't get me wrong. It's great to be tolerant, but you also need to know when and where to draw the line in the sand. That's why rules need to be in place. But because this community is so tolerant of others and show great compassion toward others, I made a thread that suggested adding an extra layer of personal care so that individual attention is given to certain people while making the community a more sound environment. And now I'm being told repeatedly that I'm being intolerant and I've received threats over this assertion. I think that's wrong. If you can't handle my opinion or how I opened up this discussion, don't post here. Bury the thread, send me a PM, let's talk about it. Let's make things right. Acting on paranoia that I'm here to wipe DD clean of people who are different than me further validates my belief that people are comfortable with the status quo of enablers (stimuli) who encourage other members to act inappropriately in the name of tolerance. It's disgusting and the enablers should be ashamed of themselves. They've done more psychological harm to these people than whatever misconception that people think I'm crusading for and it's sick. It's perverted and it's sick. You get upset over [rhymes with Beeker], but that guy is the product of your creation because you encouraged him to a point of delusion that wholly undermines social awareness. If you don't want to see people like him make a fool out of your community, then take action by supporting people like him the right way: intervention. That's what I was suggesting. Intervention.

TL;DR? Yes, but necessary. Don't like the wall of text? Deal with it because I'm not going to explain this anymore.