ABDL Advocacy Organization - Revised

[squirmyboy]

Yesteday I posted about an idea for an ABDL advoacy organization. I read 8 or so replies that were mostly

[Elfy]

If the groups you listed already exist then why do we need more groups?

58 minutes ago, squirmyboy said:

ABDL is unique and not a subset of BDSM

I know ABDLs have a thing about thinking their fetish/kink/whatever else is more meaningful or important than any other kinks but we are just the same as any other kink. Despite what some people might think, we are nothing special, just another kink on the very wide spectrum of kinks and fetishes. If you really want to do this it would surely be more practical to join an already established group rather than trying to start up a new thing that will do virtually the same thing just even more niche than the other groups already are.

If we need an awareness group at all then it is to stop ABDLs thinking they are special snowflakes and realise they are just a small part in a large spectrum of kinks.

39 minutes ago, squirmyboy said:

I also believe we have the right to be free from hiding

This is the real thing here... It is just another attempt at saying we should be able to go out and parade ourselves in public. Private lives and public lives are separate for a reason... Nobody cares if you go home and act like a baby just like we don't care if someone goes home and dresses up all in leather and get whipped by their significant other.

You already have the freedom to not hide. Being ABDL is not illegal, every time I see a topic here about people going out in public as an ABDL and I suggest against doing it I always have a bunch of people telling me it isn't illegal blah blah blah. So you are fine to go out in a diaper, heck you can even wear a bunch of "little" clothing. But just because it isn't illegal doesn't mean you can't expect others to possibly complain or stare. If you want to exercise your right to "not hide" then they can exercise their right of thinking it is really odd. And that isn't a bad thing... You shouldn't need others to accept you for you to accept yourself. If you need others approval to make yourself feel better then the problem lies in you not in everyone else.

You want to educate the public and try to understand why ABDLs are what we are but, again, nobody outside of the kink cares. In fact, many within the kink don't really care where it came from. Cases where people say they are ABDLs to justify illegal behaviour or people are discriminated against because they are ABDL are so rare as to basically not exist. You had to go to a 2 year old local news report just to find an example.

The DSMs listing of paraphilias as mental disorders aren't listing anyone with a paraphilia as having a mental disorder. Merely it lists people for whom their paraphilia goes to far (http://www.dsm5.org/Documents/Paraphilic%20Disorders%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf)

They say they only classify it as a disorder if the person involved is feeling very distressed about it or if it involves the unwilling participation of other people. Things that I can agree would need treatment, it doesn't say anyone with a paraphilia is mentally ill. I guess if you feel a need to get attention and acceptance from the general public about being an ABDL it could qualify as a disorder but otherwise most of us are happily chugging along as is.

As a final point... You want to disassociate us from the negative image we get and the one suggestion you make is for a fundraiser at a childrens museum... I feel like that would cause more problems than solutions...

[Crimson_Wolf]

28 minutes ago, Elfking said:

You want to educate the public and try to understand why ABDLs are what we are but, again, nobody outside of the kink cares. In fact, many within the kink don't really care where it came from. Cases where people say they are ABDLs to justify illegal behaviour or people are discriminated against because they are ABDL are so rare as to basically not exist. You had to go to a 2 year old local news report just to find an example.

Add to the fact it was about child pornography and that the person just happen to like seeing women wearing diapers.

[billy1234]

5 hours ago, squirmyboy said:

Yesteday I posted about an idea for an ABDL advoacy organization. I read 8 or so replies that were mostly

[DL4LIFE]

Back again?

Sounds like the agenda

[PullUpDiaperLover]

I dont see the big deal in someone wanting to start this. While I too am not sure a fetish is something that needs to be so widely accepted, I dont see the harm in someone pursuing an activist group.

[rusty pins]

9 hours ago, DL4LIFE said:

Back again?

Sounds like the agenda

[AwakenEvil]

1 hour ago, rusty pins said:

Same age as that banned member too!

[squirmyboy]

I have definitely never been banned from this site and can't understand anything that I have said should constitute such a drastic offense of sensibilities, and certainly hope that I can continue to be a part of this community. Personally I feel it is

[Apache Raccoon]

45 minutes ago, squirmyboy said:

I have definitely never been banned from this site and can't understand anything that I have said should constitute such a drastic offense of sensibilities, and certainly hope that I can continue to be a part of this community. Personally I feel it is

[FretaBWet]

23 hours ago, squirmyboy said:

Yesteday I posted about an idea for an ABDL advoacy organization. I read 8 or so replies that were mostly

[DailyDi]

From the tone of your posts I would suggest that you need to work on accepting yourself before you step up to being the poster child for the community. It does not sound like you are ready for the spotlight you are trying to walk into.

[Dirty Diaper/Maxipad Lover]

I really don't see a problem with the idea of an advocacy group, and would definitely be in favor of it. Details would have to be worked out, and there would obviously need to be a decent amount of thought put into this, but I think the concept as a whole is worth pursuing, regardless of whether or not some of the initial examples aren't. Advocacy groups basically exist for lobbying purposes, and the way you get things to your advantage is to have some sort of advocacy/lobbying group on your side, so it definitely wouldn't hurt for us to have one.

[Bettypooh]

There are already quite a number of websites which are or border on "advocacy" as well as several people worldwide who have done similarly in public even via requests. That doesn't change the fact that this is pretty odd behavior even though there is nothing inherently wrong with it. It really can't be compared to anything else that I know of since it goes beyond sexually-driven behavior, it is not a complete lifestyle (though some take it as far as it can be taken), and even in the most extreme cases it is still a blending of things which can be and things which cannot be with no disconnection with who one is inside their heart, soul, and mind.

There's no point in trying to re-invent the wheel. Far better to connect with those doing this already and ask them "What can I do to help?" then put your resources and efforts toward that. Those who seek knowledge can find it. Those who seek advocacy and evidence to support them can find that too. Those who seek support and funding from others are going to find it scant in coming until you better whatever already exists, and in this case that's going to take a lot more than I've seen offered here.

Give it a try if you want to but I can already tell you where it will end.

Bettypooh

[Rockies Fan in Diapers]

5 hours ago, DailyDi said:

From the tone of your posts I would suggest that you need to work on accepting yourself before you step up to being the poster child for the community. It does not sound like you are ready for the spotlight you are trying to walk into.

[Little BabyDoll Christine]

Two proverbs: "Let sleeping dogs lie" and "A closed mouth gathers no foot". Why go on dates with Murphy?

[spark]

He may not be a former banned member, but I swear that I recognized that writing style.