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We just made same sex marriage legal here, so please, come on over and and have a big wedding, spare no expense, let's show the rest of the country how this isn't just a victory in civil rights, but will also be a nice boost in the economy. So please, come have a big expensive wedding in Washington. Only 43 more states to go. In all seriousness, Congratulations to my state, and thanks to the governor for doing something good for a change.

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In Canada, we feel VERY superior, well, you know, of course we do in our own polite , quiet way. :whistling: Seriously though, congratulations, it is indeed a huge leap for human rights. Of course, WA is kind of close to Canada, so is Vermont for that matter, and um, New York, and you know well Maine, and Mass and NH and,,, well, you sort of get the point. (even you bunch in Iowa aren't all that far away, Robb) Maybe y'all should join us; you could be like the 11th, 12th, etc provinces! Just think, no republican primaries..... and maybe you could help us turf out that asshole Harper, who would love nothing more than to ban same sex marriage.

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Although in Canada they are now anulling any same sex marriage if either or both of them are from out side Canada :(

Actually that got a quick court challenge and was quickly defeated :)

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I'm sorry, but I still don't get how this is a step for human rights. Marriage is a stupid form of slavery anyway, instead of battling how people use laws in corrupt ways to harm or even avoid doing their jobs ... let's all get the right to be miserable ... yeah. Great step there.

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Its about equality, everyone has the equal right to be unhappy with someone and lose half of thier stuff to get out of that. I'm not a fan of marriage myself, but i would like to know that should i find the right someone i should have an equal right to marry that person, and not just that but have the same rights and benefits for my spouse as any heterosexual partnership. It's not just about the ceremony in the church... which i totally wouldn't have... it's about filing taxes jointly, about insurance coverage, visitation rights in the hospital, deciding next of kin when the stay in the hospital doesn't go so well...

its about a bunch of things that take place in the court of law, where personal opinions and bias have no business being. Lady justice is blind for a reason, and while its easy to point out that the judiciary system is far from blind. That's not the point is it? to just throw up your hands and say oh darn it's an imperfect system but that's what we've got and wipe your hands of it. I'm afraid that's not good enough for me, and it SHOULDN'T be good enough for you. Things change, and change isn't always bad. I'm sure Kitten since you don't think that the rights of homosexual couples to enter into a marriage ... that two people of different colors shouldn't be allowed to marry either since there was a time that the church was against that, or that the idea of a 34 year old man marrying a 12 year old girl in an arranged marriage?

The thing that really bothers me about the whole thing is that the homosexual couples that are fighting to get married will not produce children except in rare cases involving outside help, whereas the families that spout the hate and malice will probably produce more children than they can support and attempt to indoctrinate them into thier web of hate rather than love and tolerance...

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I don't really believe in marriage either, but I believe that if you really want to involve the government into your life, go ahead and do what makes you happy. On another note, if there's a market for ABDL weddings, I'll become a minister :P

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Granted, people should be allowed to destroy their lives like others, but I still don't get it. There are so many more things to worry about than this one thing, this counts as a wash. The thing that has bothered me about this whole marriage thing is that there are still courts unwilling to prosecute crimes against gay people all over the country. Most times you don't even hear about it on TV until it's spread across the internet first. The politicians are likely just allowing this to pass simply to keep people quiet, like a pacifier. Not to mention make their "side" look better than it is, hoping everyone will forget all the other crap they've done. It's just ... "so what" at this point. The politicians in Washington that signed this one are the ones that voters were fed up with and calling out, now ... nothing. These politicians are still screwing up the state, but "they signed gay marriage into law so it's all okay now." That's the attitude I'm seeing. Note, I'm not talking about on this site, talking about the state populace.

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Sometimes you have to fight the 'easier' battles to remind people the harder ones can be won too. If everyone took your approach kitten of "its pointless to try and change anything" ... lord knows what the state of the world would be right now, but it would not be a world i would want to be a part of. Lots of other choices suffer a lot of predjudice and unfair treatment as well, it's not right but unless people speak up about it it never changes.

State populaces may cool down for a while after bills like this because most people are sheep and don't know what else is wrong in thier area. That's whay it takes some strong willed and vocal people to bring peoples attention to the issues, but i suppose that's too hard and too much of a waste for you... i know since i started to transition in the middle of my small conservative town i've had no issues personally, and have had a few closeted membesr of the LGBT community in the neighborhood tell me that they first wished they had the courage to come out like i did and then later that using me as an example they have come out. i wouldn't put myself on a pedistal or anything i'm not a person to be admired or respected or anything like that... i'm just as much of a monster as anyone else... but if you make your own path in the woods some people will follow it, convience them the right answer and eventually it might wind up being a major road but only if enough people travel it.

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And only if that path leads somewhere worth going to.

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My partner and I have been HAPPILY married for 7 years now. We have friends ( a hetero couple) who have both been married before, and for now anyway, they prefer to me unmarried. It is their choice. Free choice. I personally enjoy the commitment of marriage, and am proud to proclaim that we are married. And as far as I am concerned, if I am denied something because of my sexual preference, then that is discrimination and it is a matter of human rights. It is largely symbolic though, let's face it, if you live common law with someone for long enough, the courts treat you as married with respect to property rights etc, at least here in Canada. :thumbsup:

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if you live common law with someone for long enough, the courts treat you as married with respect to property rights etc, at least here in Canada.

In fairness, that's because the population of Canada which is intently trying to preserve or create a second class of citizen is significantly smaller relative to the size of the nation than that of the US.

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In fairness, that's because the population of Canada which is intently trying to preserve or create a second class of citizen is significantly smaller relative to the size of the nation than that of the US.

I'm sorry, but I don't quite understand the point you are making here. What second class of citizen is this, and how or why are we trying to preserve or create this second class? Please explain so that I may understand your point.

I always thought that Canada was about a single class of people, especially when compared to the United States, reflecting what many Americans view as our socialist ways, in spite of our current conservative government. Things like universal health care, marriage rights for all including common law relationships, a national pension plan, multi-culturalism, no history of slavery, and economic "social safety nets" are about a single class of citizen. And please correct me if I am wrong, but aren't US laws surrounding property rights very similar ( "palimony") to Canada's, with both legal systems being built on the framework of British common law? If you cohabitate with someone in a relationship that creates an economic dependence or sharing or property, I believe the courts at least attempt to equitably distribute wealth and property for both parties. Again, I am certainly no expert in this area, so please help me out with this one. Btw, I am not suggesting that Canada's model is the right one ( although I like it) nor perfect by any means. Our relationship between our First Nations peoples and non-natives is far from model, and our healthcare system needs work. But, on the other hand, our unemployment and deficits remain comparatively low. Please help me understand this reference to a second class, and how that relates to our small population. :)

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aren't US laws surrounding property rights very similar ( "palimony") to Canada's

Not when it comes to domestic partners.

To clarify, The US system intently creates a second class of citizen in many areas via the current separation between the rights that homosexual couples have and the rights that heterosexual couples have.

I'm not saying Canada's perfect, but it's light-years ahead of the current state of the States. :)

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There are very few states in the USA that have the 'common law' marriage law.... very very few... and those that do.. only recognize it for couples that are allowed to get married i.e. if same sex marriage is not legal in that state, neither are same sex common law marriages.

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Just for the record, I was referring to common law same-sex marriages, but common law marriages generally.

But that aside, I see that Uganda is tabling legislation making homosexuality and trans gendered behaviours as illegal and subject to life imprisonment or execution, I would suggest that dressing up in diapers and pretty little baby clothes would qualify. Religious intolerance is a very dangerous slippery slope - be careful who you persecute, you may be next on the list .........

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I hear that. I have been listening intently to the rhetoric, because I know atheists are next especially with someone like Rick Santorum, lol, garnering much attention.

Atheists are being insulted so much lately. I have been watching many of the back and forth discussions on Youtube, including clips from TV programs. The contrast between the atheists (majority of them at least) and the ones simply attacking them is ... to say the least ... amazing. But yeah, they'll be added to the list of "people who need to be silenced" soon enough. Especially is that Santorum moron gets popular ... I hate that guy with the most passion I can muster.

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Atheists are being insulted so much lately. I have been watching many of the back and forth discussions on Youtube, including clips from TV programs. The contrast between the atheists (majority of them at least) and the ones simply attacking them is ... to say the least ... amazing. But yeah, they'll be added to the list of "people who need to be silenced" soon enough. Especially is that Santorum moron gets popular ... I hate that guy with the most passion I can muster.

Agreed!

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