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If I understand correctly, ABU snads for "Adult Baby Universe" In which case they have no business in the underage market.

As for the package graphics, I have no problem. The old Jolan Betweenter Pants ads from the 1950's, which appeared in many different publications such as the St. Anthony Messenger, clearly showd a child.

It was the watchword of the Adult Little Girl group that I was with that "The big difference between an ALG and a pedophile is this: When a pedophile sees a little girl in a nice dress, he things 'how can I get her out of that dress?'; when an ALG sees a little girl in a nice dress he or she things 'where can I get a dress like that for myself'?':

The old Pampers box had a sleeping baby on it.

It makes sense for a "youth" diaper to have that kind of graphic on it. To not have some kind of realistic graphic would be calling attention to itself and bring the pedo issue up anyway Even some of the adult print plastic panties sold as medical have sleeping babies

My big question revolves around playing in two markets, one of which should be off-limits

And how come no Girl's equivalent?

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while it may be innocent

my issues are

kids at that age dont usually wear nothing but underwear/diaper... that age is past the innocent phase they know better...

if they market to disabled teenagers they would not want to show off the fact they need a diaper...

if they are marketing to adults the adults know what a diaper is an dont need to see it on a kid...

my thoughts

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if they market to disabled teenagers they would not want to show off the fact they need a diaper...

Incorrect. They are marketing to the parents of said disabled child. In the latest years of wearing as a kid, I always ran around the house with nothing but the diaper on - when mom took me out, we put on clothes. Parents enjoy seeing the diapers on their kids just as much as the mommy/AB pairs do. If the kid has clothes on, then it's pretty hard to sell a fashion diaper to a parent as they can't see what they look like.

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at 10-12 years ?? really?? sorry i dont buy that.... i wore diapers at 12 years old and the last thing i would do is run around the house in nothing but a diaper and my parents certainly would not want to see that either.... i am not saying everybody is that way and i am not saying anything about intentions on the site BUT...its such an obviously BAD idea and no real legitimate reason for such photos.

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How else do you market the look and fit of a diaper? While I agree most kids would wear clothes to hide their diapers, you can't show the quality of a product be hiding it.

QualityDiapers is for the medical side of things, not a fetish site. The pics are innocent (and adorable) I like that they are selling diapers for youth who need them without the usual shame and embarrassment.

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How else do you market the look and fit of a diaper? While I agree most kids would wear clothes to hide their diapers, you can't show the quality of a product be hiding it.

QualityDiapers is for the medical side of things, not a fetish site. The pics are innocent (and adorable) I like that they are selling diapers for youth who need them without the usual shame and embarrassment.

sorry Di... but you dont see photos like that on goodnights website and you can show fit and look with out a kid....

i just disagree with you on this

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And what about us ABs that ARE youth/small size? I got excited when I saw this, FINALLY an AB diaper in my size! Not all of us are Medium/Large, you know...

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sorry Di... but you dont see photos like that on goodnights website and you can show fit and look with out a kid....

i just disagree with you on this

It's okay, you can disagree with me. As an incontinence/bedwetter support moderator I view things from the perspective of people that need diapers, and don't care at all how "others" see it.

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How about the fact that diapers atract heat. In the summer time people who normally wear underwear keep thier clothes on, or wear something cooler. But for people, adult and children, who cannot wear something cooler would just have to wear thier diaper. Quality Diapers is showing thier demographic comfortable in thier product. ABU does not have a link to Quality Diapers, and they cropped the image of the boy to only show the diaper. Most of us couldnt tell that it was a little boy modeling the diaper until someone went looking for Quality Diapers, I would not have bean the wiser. Personally I dont think ABU was being deceptive, rather than taking an existing picture and making it PC for thier customers. Because I can buy the same kind of socks from Wal-Mart that I can at Meijer, does not mean that they are owned by the same people.

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i get the fact that it may be innocent and probably is i get it some people see an issue with it and some dont...

but if those photo's was of 10-12 year old girl in nothing but a diaper how would you all react?

and yes I did not know it was a teen until i saw the other site... (rather lazy and why subject yourself to issues)

i dont think its ok for the photos on the tiger underwear site either..

this may be just a moral, standard i grew up with but if its even possible for a few people to get the "WRONG idea" it may be a bad idea....

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How else do you market the look and fit of a diaper? While I agree most kids would wear clothes to hide their diapers, you can't show the quality of a product be hiding it.

QualityDiapers is for the medical side of things, not a fetish site. The pics are innocent (and adorable) I like that they are selling diapers for youth who need them without the usual shame and embarrassment.

I agree.

The rest of you need to get your head out of the sand and look at the perspective. You all are digging for the negative aspect of the ad. Just because it is a child wearing the product, you automatically think child porn, or pedophilia. Why would this product be any better if it were an adult standing in the same stance showcasing the diaper? What makes it different? The diaper obviously has been developed for children/youth with bladder issues and the adult market has found a way to produce it in larger scale for the fetish community. Wake up and see this.

Don't any of you watch television and see ads for diapers, goodnites, pullups? All those products are worn on children on national television. So what makes seeing this child model this particular diaper any different from any other child diaper advertisement?

Come on....

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If quality diapers or DK Enterprises is so innocent in all this why all the secrecy about the location and ownership? No address or PO box and completely anonymous web hosting in a different country than the company. If there was some way of proving that this was not run by d33ker or The Diaper Superstore I am sure using such a young model could be forgiven.

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I agree.

The rest of you need to get your head out of the sand and look at the perspective. You all are digging for the negative aspect of the ad. Just because it is a child wearing the product, you automatically think child porn, or pedophilia. Why would this product be any better if it were an adult standing in the same stance showcasing the diaper? What makes it different? The diaper obviously has been developed for children/youth with bladder issues and the adult market has found a way to produce it in larger scale for the fetish community. Wake up and see this.

Don't any of you watch television and see ads for diapers, goodnites, pullups? All those products are worn on children on national television. So what makes seeing this child model this particular diaper any different from any other child diaper advertisement?

Come on....

The answer is easy to figure out by asking not what is said, but what will come of it. That is simple: Media overkill to create a hyper-charged social environment, pandering to the morally aggressive exploitation of chidren by the left and some elements of the right and a political/legal money grab and power play as those who will gain from this jockey for position.

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If quality diapers or DK Enterprises is so innocent in all this why all the secrecy about the location and ownership? No address or PO box and completely anonymous web hosting in a different country than the company. If there was some way of proving that this was not run by d33ker or The Diaper Superstore I am sure using such a young model could be forgiven.

Domain privacy services are used for a number of reasons. The biggest being that the proxy company completely locks the domain and prevents it from being ripped off by domain thiefs. Check here for more details: http://www.bloggingtips.com/2008/11/25/how-secure-is-your-domain-name/

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The answer is easy to figure out by asking not what is said, but what will come of it. That is simple: Media overkill to create a hyper-charged social environment, pandering to the morally aggressive exploitation of chidren by the left and some elements of the right and a political/legal money grab and power play as those who will gain from this jockey for position.

^^My English language translator spit this back out^^ LOL

The phone number on the site comes back to a landline in Pierce county in Tacoma, Wa.

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it boils down to this and instead of going back and forth we should accept.

1. some people find this offensive and no matter the INTENT they will not support it.

2. some people will see nothing wrong with it and support it.

3. some people will be offended but like the product so will ignore it...

4. some people dont care.

5. unfortuantly some people will like it to much.

6. another reason

if you like it you will support it, if not you will not support it.

bashing each other over our deferences will not solve this .

I personaly feel this was a bad idea right / wrong , legal or not if just 1 person gets the wrong idea its a bad idea. we as a group MUST be carefull EXTRA carefull to the outside world and what they might see as bad and should do everything in our power to not push anyone to get the wrong idea about our group. the really sad thing is there ARE people who will use such a photo improperly and thus it shouldnt exist.

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the above post is very well put. But i will have to say that this picture is okay. Due to the fact they are selling a product. True that most kids that age would not run around like that. But when selling something like this it is desinged for the kids parents to see the product in action on a real peson. to show how well it looks, quailty. And is made with prints to help make the child feel better about there problems. True goodnights does not do these kind of pictures but it is a multi billion dollar company that has been around for a long time. they can afford to pound money into tv, radio, news papers ect. Were a little company can't and i would also safe the picture is within the laws of the legal system. And u must remeber what the point of the picture is for. Small companys have to go futher with there products they havent got the credtabilty like the big company's have alredy earned nor the money. And always remeber everything bases around money in this world even the legal system even more then everthing else. But yes some freak will more then likly use that picture in a negative way. I will agree on that.

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it boils down to this and instead of going back and forth we should accept.

1. some people find this offensive and no matter the INTENT they will not support it.

2. some people will see nothing wrong with it and support it.

3. some people will be offended but like the product so will ignore it...

4. some people dont care.

5. unfortuantly some people will like it to much.

6. another reason

if you like it you will support it, if not you will not support it.

bashing each other over our deferences will not solve this .

I personaly feel this was a bad idea right / wrong , legal or not if just 1 person gets the wrong idea its a bad idea. we as a group MUST be carefull EXTRA carefull to the outside world and what they might see as bad and should do everything in our power to not push anyone to get the wrong idea about our group. the really sad thing is there ARE people who will use such a photo improperly and thus it shouldnt exist.

There is NO idea that at least one person does not get the wrong one, so that standard is kind of useless because nothing passes muster. There has to be expectations of reasonability: at least of compos mentis, or every idea would be a bad one

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There is NO idea that at least one person does not get the wrong one, so that standard is kind of useless because nothing passes muster. There has to be expectations of reasonability: at least of compos mentis, or every idea would be a bad one

While that is a case, this is not a case of a person or two having an issue with this. This has been brought up by several members on several sites with almost equal opinions on both sides of the issue.

The trick, of course, is for each side to recognize the opinions of the other side, especially when there are facts to back those opinions, and realize that their opinions may, in fact, be valid and that insulting people who have an issue (or don't have an issue) with ABU's actions is not something which helps anybody.

ie: I think that ABU's actions here were not a very good idea. I think it's a little creepy and that, especially considering ABU's well-documented past issues, it would behoove them to show better judgment. However, if you do not think that, and disagree, I do not think you are a lesser person for it.

That being said, if you decide that I am somehow trying to "attack" ABU without facts to back that supposition, then I will point out that your opinion has no basis in reality, and scathingly so if your opinion is presented in an uncouth fashion. (See, for example, the other thread)

I think (Note: Opinion) that one cannot help but hold this in reference to ABU's past faults. I think that people are right to question this corporation which isn't actually a corporation (You have to register those and theirs is not registered, not that they ever claimed to be a "real corporation") and their origins. People have a right to know who they are purchasing from and an obligation, especially considering ABU's history, to be sure that their money is not going towards people who would support the sexualization of children for a fetish.

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